Re: The New GNUstep Seems Slow

[Fred Kiefer]

Great! Now what should we do about this? Release a bug fix for back? That way 
we would have a different version number for back and the corresponding gui. 
But will this cause any harm?

With all the great changes from Eric in gui we should only do a new full 
release after completing that change cycle. I would expect that this take up at 
least two more months. An intermediate bug fix release sounds appropriate. 

Fred

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> Datum: Fri, 6 May 2011 04:22:42 +0100
> Von: Richard Stonehouse <richard@rstonehouse.co.uk>
> An: Eric Wasylishen <ewasylishen@gmail.com>
> CC: Fred Kiefer <fredkiefer@gmx.de>, "discuss-gnustep@gnu.org" 
> <discuss-gnustep@gnu.org>
> Betreff: Re: The New GNUstep Seems Slow

> I've applied your change as a patch to gnustep-back version 0.20.0
> and GWorkspace now starts up in less than 5 seconds. Thanks very
> much for the speedy fix!
> 
> On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 02:46:07PM -0600, Eric Wasylishen wrote:
> > Sorry, this is indeed my fault.
> > 
> > I committed a simple fix which caches the NSCharacterSet in
> CairoFaceInfo and it seems to fix the problem. A better fix would be to cache 
> the
> matched pattern as you said, but I think the main bottleneck is fixed.
> > 
> > At some point I'd like to replace most of CairoFontInfo / CairoFaceInfo
> with the new code Niels wrote for Opal, so we can stop using the cairo toy
> api and draw glyphs properly, but I'm not sure when I'll have a chance to
> do this.
> > 
> > Eric
> > 
> > On 2011-05-05, at 3:03 AM, Fred Kiefer wrote:
> > 
> > > I just run kcachegrind over the callgrind result from Ink and from
> that I would pick out the new method [CairoFaceInfo characterSet] that Eric
> added on the 27th of March as the culprit. On my machine this seems to use up
> 90% of the execution time of Ink. I don't trust any profiling numbers,
> still this is an important hint, where the slowdown might come from.
> > > 
> > > I don't quite understand how this could happen, as this method gets
> called only once per font. The main time there is spend in FcFontMatch, which
> also gets called from fontFace, but doesn't result in a problem there. As
> it turns out FcFontMatch gets called 10 times (my not so scientific
> numbers, invent your own if you prefer) more often from characterSet than it 
> is
> called from fontFace and the reason for this simply is that we cache the
> fontFace but not the characterSet. The solution should be as simple as to 
> cache
> the characterSet as well. Or even better, use a common cache for the
> resolved pattern.
> > > 
> > > Eric, what is your thinking on this? By now you are more familiar with
> the cairo backend than I am.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 28.04.2011 21:03, Richard Stonehouse wrote:
> > >> This was with the cairo backend.
> > >> 
> > >> Rebuilds with the art and xlib backends work fine - run at the
> > >> expected speed.
> > >> 
> > >> The installed cairo is libcairo.so.2.10800.10 from openSUSE 11.3
> > >> package cairo-1.8.10-3.1.i586; gnustep-back 0.18.0 worked OK with
> > >> this.
> > >> 
> > >> There is another libcairo on the system, installed by vmware in one
> > >> of its own directories, but I'm pretty confident that gnustep-back is
> > >> linked against the correct libcairo and not the spurious one.
> > >> 
> > >> openSUSE 11.4, which I've downloaded but not yet installed, has a new
> > >> version of libcairo: /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.11000.2 in package
> > >> libcairo2-1.10.2-6.9.1.i586. I'm planning to install it over the
> > >> weekend so will see whether the problem goes away.
> > >> 
> > >> Please let me know if there's anything else I should try.
> > >> 
> > >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:08:23AM +0100, Fred Kiefr wrote:
> > >>> I don't know about any specific reason why GNUstep should now be
> > >>> slower.  This seems to be an important issue to investigate.  Which
> > >>> bacend are you using?  A wrong backend is the most common reason
> > >>> for a slowdown.  If this isn't the case we need to use tools to
> > >>> find out where the time gets spend.  I will send a mail on this
> > >>> next week, when I am back home.
> > > 
> > > 
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