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Re: Cross Platform GNUStep GUI with Native Look-And-Feel

From: Gregory Casamento
Subject: Re: Cross Platform GNUStep GUI with Native Look-And-Feel
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:05:44 -0400


I believe the best course of action here is to expand the WinUXTheme
to support the classic theme on Windows properly by using bitmaps when
that particular theme is chosen.    Switching manually between the
WinUXTheme and the "Windows Classic Theme" which resides in GAP is
somewhat clunky.


On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Riccardo Mottola <rm@gnu.org> wrote:
> Hi Stefan,
> yes and no. Technically, the windows native theme cannot support directly
> the "classic" theme. Akin to GNUstep itself, the "classic" theme in Windows
> is not a theme drawn by the WinUX DLL, it is drawn as a "fallback" without
> it. Since our windows theme relies on said DLL, it cannot draw it directly.
> I understand your longing for such a theme under windows: as soon as I touch
> a Windows XP or Windows Vista PC for more than a couple of minutes, I switch
> back to the ol' NT theme. And I have to work with Windows every day...
> The windows NT theme is not very different from GNUstep itself in terms of
> design, since it was copied quite brutally from NeXT. The interface
> guidelines are of course very different (CUA...), scrollbars, menus...
> Your bet could be the "Windows Classic" theme of GAP which currently tries
> to be a pure pixmap theme. Try it, it is not officially released yet not
> even as a 0.1 version because our theming engine and native in-windows menu
> support still have too many limitations and bugs.
> That's also why other themes are languishing in GAP.
> The window native theme work partially around the menu problem by using the
> native windows menus.
> Eventually part of the "Window classic" theme are becoming a fall-back
> inside the windows native theme...
> So you see a small complicated maze where in the past 2 years there was
> progress, but I feel still too little to announce something for general
> usage. Try, things might work for your specific application.
> Cheers,
>  Riccardo
> Stefan Bidi wrote:
>> I've been meaning to ask this for some time... is there any plan to
>> support the Windows Classic theme?
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Gregory Casamento
>> <greg.casamento@gmail.com <mailto:greg.casamento@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>    Aditya,
>>    The Windows theme is released as part of the standard windows
>>    installer.  The GNOME theme has not yet been released, but is
>>    currently in the final development stages and should be released
>>    separately after the next GUI release.
>>    Both themes make GNUstep blend very well with the host environment.
>>    GC
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