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Re: GNUstep

From: Gregory Casamento
Subject: Re: GNUstep
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:10:06 -0400


You're wrong on a couple of levels here....

1) GNUstep is not an implementation of NeXTSTEP... it started as an
implementation of the OpenStep standard and has followed Cocoa since
the Apple merger with NeXT.

2) In order to incorporate their code we would need them to have them
assign copyright to the FSF which is *highly* unlikely to happen in my

3) Additionally, even if we did incorporate it, we would never under
any circumstance replace the license.  The only people who can do that
are the people who wrote it.

While your initiative is appreciated, it would be best to consult with
someone in this project who is a maintainer i.e. myself, Richard
Frith-MacDonald, Nicola Pero and Fred Kiefer before making a move to
incorporate outside code into this project.

Please remember it is still acceptable to do one or both of the following:

1) Fork Chameleon and make changes to make it work with GNUstep as
well as make it more complete.
2) Continue with our existing implementation of UIKit and use ideas
from what they have done.

Thanks, GC

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Amr Aboelela <amraboelela@gmail.com> wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: BigZaphod
> <reply+m-9201204-9f9752af99cee8fb7c10d727d7ffaff622000caa@reply.github.com>
> Date: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: GNUstep
> To: amraboelela@gmail.com
> An open source Core Animation would be pretty amazing, and with that and the
> other frameworks, Chameleon should be able to run! That'd be pretty
> impressive!
> Chameleon is all under a BSD license which is far more permissive than GPL,
> and that's the way I like it. I personally dislike the GPL and find it too
> restrictive. I understand the goals, but I don't agree it's necessary to
> strong-arm people into sharing. Chameleon has now had several contributions
> from a number of others and I suspect they would also all have to agree to
> dual license their contributions. While not an insurmountable problem, I
> have no interest in doing it.
> It should be possible to use Chameleon to test their Core Animation layer
> and software could even be built using the whole open source stack once it's
> complete, but no, I don't want to add any additional restrictions to my
> code.
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> amraboelela said about 1 hour ago:
> Hi,
> GNUstep which is an open source implementation of AppKit and other NextStep
> frameworks, are currently trying to implement the UIKit and CoreAnimation
> frameworks. But as you did already big part of the UIKit, is it ok that they
> use your code?
> The CoreAnimation is the missing part, and they can start in implementing
> it, but it would be easy if they already have the UIKit to test with it.
> The problem is that FSF (Free Software Foundation) www.gnu.org require that
> they use the FSF Open Source Copy Left in all the code in its repositories,
> in www.gna.org
> So is it ok for you that they put their own FSF Copy Left on the top of the
> code files?
> Thanks
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Gregory Casamento - GNUstep Lead/Principal Consultant, OLC, Inc.
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