Re: gnustep.org domain

[Riccardo Mottola]

Hi,

Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote:
> Hi Ivan,
>
> see below …
>
> Am 17.07.2013 um 23:10 schrieb Ivan Vučica:
>
> > Once that works, to get that to work for our communication we'll just 
> > need to set up some A, MX and PTR records on the domain to point to 
> > whatever server we pick to host these services. I could do the 
> > initial hosting until a permanent home is found for these services.
> >
> > XMPP server can serve for both IM communication and to host a 
> > chatroom. Some sort of realtime communication system that we can 
> > agree upon and which does not depend on proprietary commercial 
> > providers is, I think, essential; today I had an unpleasant 
> > experience that the messages sent from my XMPP server to a Google 
> > Talk user went straight to /dev/null, courtesy of the new "our 
> > Hangouts architecture is not based on XMPP" policy.
>
> Well, there is #gnustep on irc.freenode.net <http://irc.freenode.net>, 
> why splitting up the available channels further and having the burden 
> to maintain this infrastructure too? IMHO this is a waste of effort.
> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

+1

Well, general, let me "brake" your efforts a bit: you may think about 
chats, you may think about forums on the website. Cool things for some 
people, but they will die slowly if not used. Even worse, if somebody 
find something "dead" it will enhance the impression of "death". If you 
don't have users, real developers inside, it won't be useful.

IRC used to be active, but it is mostly dormant today. IRC is still a 
favourite among "OSS hackers", since you can access it from a terminal 
to a web page (through gateways).

The idea of forums came often up, but most developers agreed that 
mailing lists are enough and good.

I suppose a similar fate for some sort of chat.

So before spending your time, adding something, make first sure that 
people intend to use it!

For me, communication is divided clearly in:
1) email
2) IRC
which I both can access through SeaMonkey and, in theory, with two 
(aging) gnustep programs.
For person-to-person communication there is the horribly proprietary 
Skype which ends up being effective because it works and it is used, 
even if it means that usually I have a second laptop just to use that 
crap ;)

Riccardo