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Re: GNUstep Kickstarter Project


From: Gregory Casamento
Subject: Re: GNUstep Kickstarter Project
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:43:07 -0400

All of that having been said.. I have submitted a story…  Please vote it up:

http://slashdot.org/submission/2872815/gnustep-kickstarter-campaign-launched

Gregory Casamento
greg.casamento@gmail.com
Open Logic Corporation, President/CEO
GNUstep Lead Developer


On Aug 12, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Gregory Casamento <greg.casamento@gmail.com> wrote:

> The thing irks me the most about slashdot is that when they put it up they 
> put it up in a "department" which is really a sarcastic commentary on what 
> the slashdot staff thinks of the story.  
> 
> The darling posting got this "department" - "from the sure-thing-sweetheart 
> dept."
> 
> The Sony posting, back in 2010 got this "department" - "from the 
> new-way-of-doing-things dept."
> 
> I simply don't trust slashdot one bit.
> 
> Gregory Casamento
> greg.casamento@gmail.com
> Open Logic Corporation, President/CEO
> GNUstep Lead Developer
> 
> 
> On Aug 12, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Luboš Doležel <lubos@dolezel.info> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> cool. I would be pleasantly surprised if the goal is reached, though, 
>> without some publicity. Try Phoronix or Slashdot.
>> 
>> What would be nice is to show some apps that were ported from OS X to 
>> Linux/Windows, if there are any.
>> 
>> I have had some limited success with The Unarchiver, I guess the phase of 
>> moon prevented it from crashing yesterday, but it's crashing again today, so 
>> I can't take any screenshots. I must create some minimal test case to 
>> reproduce the error and help get it fixed.
>> 
>> Luboš
>> 
>> On 12.8.2013 23:40, Gregory Casamento wrote:
>>> Goals added.   They are tentative.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Gregory Casamento
>>> <greg.casamento@gmail.com <mailto:greg.casamento@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Thanks for your input, I'll add some goals in the project
>>>   description as soon as they become a little more clear.
>>>   Unfortunately I can't say that WebKit will be completed at $100,000
>>>   because, to be honest, until the project is actually funded, it's
>>>   impossible to tell what can be done.  I've tried to keep the goals
>>>   realistic.  At this point, the goal, as stated, is to get GNUstep
>>>   fully up to 10.6 and if possible beyond.  Given that Apple is a
>>>   multi-billion dollar company and we are not I don't think this goal
>>>   is out of the question.  Over promising can get us into a huge
>>>   amount of trouble if we don't deliver.
>>> 
>>>   Gregory Casamento
>>>   greg.casamento@gmail.com <mailto:greg.casamento@gmail.com>
>>>   Open Logic Corporation, President/CEO
>>>   GNUstep Lead Developer
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On Aug 12, 2013, at 5:20 PM, James Carthew <jcarthew@gmail.com
>>>   <mailto:jcarthew@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm no expert, but I have donated over $1000 to the Star Citizn
>>>   kickstarter. They had very clear goals, outlined what they'd do with
>>>   more money, and they had video/images of work they had already done
>>>   which proved they were serious and capable of delivering goals.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 13 August 2013 07:18, James Carthew <jcarthew@gmail.com
>>>   <mailto:jcarthew@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Good idea, but I think some more planning should be added to
>>>   this. Usually when kickstarters succeed they have stretch goals and
>>>   very clear presentation of what's currently available, and what will
>>>   be available after the project succeeds.. You're going to need a lot
>>>   more media on that page. My advice would be to throw up screenshots
>>>   of gnustep applications running on gnustep and OSX, show a lot of
>>>   comparisons between the apis, show people what you're planning to
>>>   create/work on. Saying fund my idea, here's the idea isn't enough
>>>   with Kickstarter. You have to really sell the idea you want made.
>>>   Sell a vision. Outline clear goals. Say at $100,000 Vespucci/Webkit
>>>   will be completed, at $150,000 System Preferences.app will support
>>>   networking, X, and audio configuration etc. Clear goals that show
>>>   people what they will get out of it. At least put some videos of
>>>   gnustep apps on linux and gnustep apps under osx on there.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 13 August 2013 06:31, Gregory Casamento
>>>   <greg.casamento@gmail.com <mailto:greg.casamento@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Updated, I added a $2 fee to cover shipping outside the US only
>>>   because I suspect it will be a little more expensive.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Gregory Casamento
>>>   <greg.casamento@gmail.com <mailto:greg.casamento@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Does it say that?  I'll change it if I can.  Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> GC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
>>>   <hns@goldelico.com <mailto:hns@goldelico.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Am 12.08.2013 um 22:13 schrieb Gregory Casamento:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hey guys, I've launched a kickstarter project in the hopes of
>>>   getting some time to work exclusively on GNUstep in order to try to
>>>   address some of the issues we have surrounding API completeness,
>>>   documentation issues, etc..., here it is:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/203272607/gnustep-project
>>>> 
>>>> Cool.
>>>> 
>>>> But why ship only within US?
>>>> 
>>>> I think it is not a problem to get someone to copy CDs inside the
>>>   EU or e.g. Australia and ship them out at low cost as a letter to
>>>   save postage.
>>>> 
>>>> BR,
>>>> Nikolaus
>>>> 
>> 
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