Re: Kickstarter was not successful... but it did help things...

[Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf]

Greg, all your answers: well said!

cheers,

        Lars

Am 23.11.2013 um 20:12 schrieb Gregory Casamento:

> 
> On Nov 23, 2013, at 12:23 PM, Riccardo Mottola <riccardo.mottola@libero.it> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On 11/22/13 19:11, Gregory Casamento wrote:
>>> MyStep is interesting but an implementation of uikit is needed in some form 
>>> to attract that segment of developers.
>>> 
>> do we really want to attract them?
> 
> Yes
> 
>> for what purpose?
> 
> To help make the project better.
> 
>> Where would this "uikit-gnustep" run?
> 
> On any platform it is capable of being ported to, just like GNUstep.
> 
>> do you want to have it running on Android do port iOS stuff?
> 
> Yes and to develop new things, just as GNUstep can be used to develop new 
> apps for Linux/BSD.
> 
>> or on some free hardware? 
> 
> Sure.
> 
>> which one?
> 
> Is this somehow my choice and not the community?  Is a choice necessary here?
> 
>> Of what use would it be?
> 
> As you stated and I stated earlier: To compile and run existing iOS apps on 
> any other platform and to develop new apps using that framework.
> 
>> Questions that need to be answered besides just using the buzzword of 
>> compatibility once against GNUstep.
>> 
>> Having a "uikit" would be comparable to having cocoa. But what is the 
>> ultimate use for it?
> 
> You’ve asked this question several times in the course of this message, I 
> suggest you check above.
> 
>> GNUstep allows to develop like you do on a Mac or NeXT box, but on your 
>> operating system of choice and on hardware of choice (most notably, x86 
>> commodity hardware).
>> 
>> But for a mobile computing it looks dimmer. You might either target Andorid 
>> or some kind of total-free implementation, that would be essentially a 
>> different way of doing myStep, bi looking at iOS instead of desktop as 
>> compatibility. But from the long work of Nikolaus on free phones and 
>> tablets, we know how spotty and different the scenarios are there.
> 
> Android is a good start.  It might be good to develop a version that runs on 
> the desktop to allow for it to be perfected first and then move on to porting 
> it to different hardware as needed.
> 
>> 
>> Mobile stuff is, sadly, much more retrograde in terms of freedom than 
>> desktops.
> 
> That’s precisely why a free version of the iOS frameworks are needed to help 
> to free all of the apps which are proprietary on it so that they can run on 
> other platforms.  Development of such a framework is not the end, but just 
> the beginning of making these platforms free.
> 
>> 
>> Riccardo
> 
> Greg
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