Re: elementary OS

[Gerold Rupprecht]

Dear Gregory,

Thanks for trying to moderate our discussion, but your banning appears to me as inappropriate as well as counter-productive.

I kindly request you to reverse your decision.

I too find flaming remarks annoying. Banning someone who despite their abrasive tone, has taken the time and effort to install and compile GNUstep should be listened to. The person has obviously come back on several occasions, hoping there was more progress in several strategic areas, and was willing to spend their time to come back to us and investigate for himself. That alone is worth a thank you in my opinion. What he had to say was poorly thought out because he did not stick with addressing the problems, but attacked the character of individuals (to be avoided - I too felt slighted). This potential user is simply frustrated and venting off. Banning someone is disproportionate. I too appreciate civilized discussion...

We clearly have to make some choices as what problems we want to tackle and when, to stay relevant.

I believe with efforts in certain areas, GNUstep can still prove most useful, but the rest of the computing world is not standing still. We have to make some strategic choices to get ahead and open our code to a greater audience.

I would welcome you to take the lead on launching and guiding such an important strategy discussion to increase collaboration between various contributors.

Best wishes,

Gerold

On 10. 02. 14 19:38, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:

Am 10.02.2014 um 17:45 schrieb Patryk Laurent:

Bad news: I must say that I, too, was completely shocked by the ban.  

Me too.

For a "discuss" list, it seems to me that participants should feel free to openly express and discuss their views.

Especially on a FSF project list. Or is freedom of speech no longer of any importance?

 How many discuss-gnustep members are even more hesitant to do so now?

Me for example. This is the fifth attempt to write some contribution, but I find myself deleting everything and starting over because I think I can't say that any more.

I am also starting to wonder why I still devote so much time for this list and such topics. Maybe because I have the feeling that I must help to rescue the project from insignificance.

I don't like the model of only being allowed to contribute to code and otherwise have to be silent. For that, I do not need this project or community.

Nikolaus

Patryk

On 9 February 2014 20:46, Gregory Casamento <greg.casamento@gmail.com> wrote:

So, I hope you'll fully understand when I say that I'm banning you from it.

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