IndieTech went well!!

Nikolaus,

On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <hns@goldelico.com> wrote:

Hi Fred,

Am 07.07.2014 um 20:27 schrieb Fred Kiefer:

> Hi Nikolaus,
>
> On 07.07.2014 19:49, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>> I think there is always the other way round: participate and bring
>> forward communities that already exist :)
>
> this is a rather interesting position coming from your side. Do you
> finally plan to give up mySTEP and join the GNUstep development? That is
> great and your help will be highly appreciated.

Maybe you didn't recognise: I always help GNUstep with every line
of code that is added to mySTEP...

​I, personally, do recognize this.  I think your work on mySTEP and QuantumStep are very important.  They show us ways to optimize for platforms which GNUstep would normally not be deployed on.

​

mySTEP is completely open, license is compatible and you can take
what you want. And it is always clear that it is based on GNUstep
(and started in the mGstep "fork" of GNUstep).

One factor that I don't commit directly on the GNustep code base is
that GNUstep does not (and is unlikely to) satisfy the goals I have
with mySTEP. So I have to fix/adapt it anyways. And in areas that I
don't understand well enough.

So why should I work e.g. on GORM, Theming, Windows support
and other things on GNUstep and bring more sand than oil into
the machinery?

​You shouldn't work on any of those things unless you choose to do so.​   Period.  Your reasons for maintaining your fork are entirely justified and reasonable.  And it should be stated that, even if they were not, you have the right to fork just because you want to.

The difference of my argument with indiephone is that it comes out
of nothing and does not even mention previous activities OpenMoko.
And it is (at least to me) not even clear how it differs in goals.

​I'm really not sure what argument you're referring to. IndiePhone is trying to make a phone with the explicit goals of:

1) Being 100% open and transparent.  And we have done this so far... there is little info to release at this point

2) ​design driven  

3) explicit non-sharing of information with services such as Google and Facebook 

It should be noted. I don't speak for the project just telling you guys what I know so far

But as said the latter is not a GNUstep related topic.

​The topic of forks is definitely a related topic, even if IndiePhone isn't.​  Let me state this really clearly: There is nothing wrong with a fork.  Forks are fine and they are a "good thing" in most cases.  

BR,
Nikolaus

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From:	Gregory Casamento
Subject:	IndieTech went well!!
Date:	Tue, 8 Jul 2014 03:05:10 +0100