Re: Phoenix language

[Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller]

Am 22.10.2014 um 23:50 schrieb Gregory Casamento <greg.casamento@gmail.com>:

> Dr. Schaller,
> 
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
> <hns@computer.org> wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Am 22.10.2014 um 21:11 schrieb Gregory Casamento <greg.casamento@gmail.com>:
>> 
>>> Dr. Schaller,
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
>>> <hns@computer.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Am 22.10.2014 um 18:07 schrieb Ivan Vučica <ivan@vucica.net>:
>>>> 
>>>> My understanding is that Phoenix is an implementation of Swift and not
>>>> Objective-C.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I see.
>>>> 
>>>> Shouldn’t they have much code in common (except a different grammar)?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you believe that I can reuse anything from it, it would be nice.
>> 
>> Well, I don’t know what you want to do and achieve and if I remember
>> correctly there was no deep discussion so far about GNUstep doing
>> anything with/for the Swift language (although it is quite forcing).
> 
> There was, in fact, some discussion on these lines.  There were
> postings to the list about swift when the language was first
> announced.   The decision at that time was to write one if Apple
> didn’t open theirs.  

I remember some discussion but wasn’t aware that such a decision was taken.

> That is what I’m doing.

It looks like a “I, GC” project rather than a “we, GNUstep”. So you should not
be astonished about some reactions here.

> 
>> Therefore it is difficult to recommend something for reuse.
>> 
>>> 
>>>> As you can see in the commit log, Gregory is involved with Phoenix.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, nice to know.
>>>> 
>>>> How is that related to the GNUstep work? Does it help GNUstep or does it
>>>> distract Greg
>>>> from working for GNUstep?
>>> 
>>> Nope. :)  GNUstep is the main reason I'm doing this.  GNUstep is
>>> always my first love and concern.
>> 
>> I appreciate to hear that. It did look for me so far as a completely new
>> and different project that has nothing in common (except you working
>> for both). But I know from my projects that the outside view might not
>> reveal the connections.
> 
> Swift, as I see it, is important for our future.  Also, I wasn't sure
> if it was a good idea to put it into GNUstep's repo.  I may still put
> a version of it there if needed.

This makes me even more puzzled. Are there two versions planned?

Anyways it is a good initiative.

BR,
Nikolaus


> 
>> 
>> BR,
>> Nikolaus
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> BR,
>>>> Nikolaus
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller 
>>>> <hns@computer.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> does anyone know more about this project
>>>>> 
>>>>>       https://source.ind.ie/project/phoenix/tree/master
>>>>> 
>>>>> and how it relates to
>>>>> 
>>>>>       https://github.com/goldelico/mySTEP/tree/master/ObjC
>>>>> 
>>>>> BR,
>>>>> Nikolaus
>>>>> 
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