Re: Various discussion

[Germán Arias]

Hi

On 2014-12-10 21:16:08 -0600 "Lundberg, Johannes" 
<johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp> wrote:

> Hi
>
> In a long I haven't used any of the desktop GUI apps that come with
> GNUstep. I revisited Gemas.app homepage and saw that it now has
> auto-complete so I decided to give it a try. I've been fighting with 
> emacs
> for a while but the auto-complete support for Obj-C isn't all that 
> good and
> this is an absolute necessity for a modern editor.
>
> My setup is
> Lubuntu 14.04
> Install gnustep with apt-get to get all dependencies
> Uninstalled gnustep\* with apt-get and installed from source
>
> Version:
> libgnustep-base.so.1.24
> libgnustep-gui.so.0.24
> libgnustep-back-024
> libcairo2-dev 1.13.0~20140204-0ubuntu1
>
> Gemas 0.4
> ProjectCenter 0.62
>
> NSMenuInterfaceStyle Windows95
>
> Result:
> ProjectCenter/Gemas
> - I couldn't set Gemas at editor in ProjectCenter. It says it can't 
> find it
> and crash. I had to edit the plist manually.

The last version of PC have a different protocol than previous 
versions, so Gemas 0.4 don't work with this version of PC. You should 
use the development version of Gemas. I will make a new release soon, 
but first I want see if I can do some improvements.

> - Auto-compete doesn't seem to work. Do I need any additional
> tools/configuration?

Odd

> - Everytime I launch projectcenter a non-existing project called 
> PCExample
> is opened. I had to remove the entry from the plist to get it to 
> disappear.

If you use Windows interface style, this is needed. In other way, 
where we will put the menu?
Maybe we need an option to open the last project you are working. Or 
display a panel asking what you want do?

> UI
> - In all scrollviews the rendering gets messed up, can't see content 
> unless
> I click on an item.

This is a problem with the version of cairo 1.13. You should add this 
change:

http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/gnustep/libs/back/trunk/Source/cairo/CairoGState.m?r1=37523&r2=38135&sortby=date

> - Can not use arrow keys to scroll up/down in list view.
> - Fonts seemed to be rendered smaller than in Lubuntu desktop. For 
> example
> an 11 pt size font has difference size in GNUstep's preferences and
> openbox's preferences.
> - When using windows style menu the y position of mouse click gets
> translated by menu height. That is the click is registered about 1 cm 
> above
> the mouse cursor. (in ProjectCenter with silver theme, haven't tested 
> other
> apps).

Some days ago I tested GNUstep on Lxde in Trisquel 7 (based on Ubuntu 
14.04). And all this works for me, but I'm using the development 
versions of GNUstep. Although I had other problems. See:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnustep-dev/2014-11/msg00005.html

Anyway, I will check it again in Lxde.

> - Whenever I press an arrow key in ProjectCenter editor to scroll 
> up/down
> the mouse cursor changes from line to arrow. Quite annoying.

I had this problem also in non GNUstep apps in Lxde and Xfce in 
trisquel 7 (Ubuntu 14.04). So, I think this is not specific to 
GNUstep.

> Any ideas about these problems?
>
> For Gemas developer:
> I like where Gemas is heading. Good job! Hope to get auto-completion 
> to
> work and then real time error check would be very nice :) It's a shame
> there hasn't been any alternative on non-OSX platforms that has the
> functions a modern editor should have but maybe we can be there soon 
> :)

Thanks :)

> Best regards
> --
> Johannes Lundberg