Re: GNUstep's lack of progress and Apple's holding back Swift language

[David Chisnall]

On 3 Apr 2015, at 00:27, Gregory Casamento <greg.casamento@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It seems that the reason so many people are happy about
> Swift is because it's NOT ObjC, for whatever sense that makes.

From talking to our local Cocoa dev group and a few others, there seems to be a 
trend in developers following the same pattern:

1) See Swift, follow the tutorials.
2) Think Swift is amazing, be very excited about it.
3) Try to deal with JSON data in Swift, wonder WTF the language designers were 
thinking.
4) Go back to Objective-C.

I imagine that there will be another iteration of the language to make dealing 
with heterogeneous containers less painful.  Apple still doesn't (as far as I 
know) provide a mechanism for creating shared libraries in Swift, so it's not 
like we're seeing frameworks (where 90+% of all application code lives) being 
stuck on Apple-only platforms.

David

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