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From: | Riccardo Mottola |
Subject: | Re: Plans for ahead |
Date: | Sun, 29 Nov 2015 15:16:06 +0100 |
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Hi, Gregory Casamento wrote:
I absolutely want "our" menus, they are distinctive and useful and if I were >to make a reference distribution, I'd want to retain that.They are OLD. More important than their usefulness is what they invoke and that is they make people think that we are NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP only. Like it or not our old look is part of our problem. I'm sorry you don't like this fact, but it is based on tons of first hand observation over the last ten years.
I'm sorry you mix look and with interface design. Facts and factoids.Actually, our menus are NEW, they are newer than in-window menus and one-menu-bar on the top which came from Mac and Motif/OS2/Windows. They have close parents and predecessors (e.g. SGI menus, Amiga menus) but NeXT made them consistent.
The interaction with our menus makes NeXT & GNUstep distinctive and as trying to port applications back and forth it allows for a unique interaction. It allows, for example to have very smooth document based applications which are impossible to achieve (as still the latest office suite of a big software company proves) with in-window menus. It offers the same functionality as a top menu bar, but is more flexible and works well with big screens or multiple-screens. We do not need to invent things like "tearable menus" and even "palettes" are not strictly necessary.
Thus, playing the same song is of no good for anybody. Riccardo
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