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Re: A Critique: Getting Started with GNUstep on Windows

From: Dan Hitt
Subject: Re: A Critique: Getting Started with GNUstep on Windows
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 21:19:21 -0800

Absolutely --- an entire OS which you just install on some partition
of a gpt disk
would be perfect, imvho.

I would certainly download and use it.

And, to me, it would be infinitely preferable to a piece of middleware.

But the guys who are developing it rightfully have the choice of what
to develop,
and it is their exclusive decision on how to invest their time.

I would say, though, that i think it is fantastically difficult to devise
a useful piece of middleware that can easily run well on a pile of
targets, and the Next itself tried making a version running on only
two platforms (their own and NT) but abandoned the project.

And i would say further that Thom's troubles ultimately stem from this
fantastic difficulty.  It is very hard to imagine how a small team could
pull off a reasonable windows version.  The fact that there's a windows
version which is only 2 years out of date is already an amazing
achievement, again imvho.  Cross-platform is hard (and i would dare say
that QT, WxWindows, Java and other such efforts underline this point; it's
hard to act like a native if you are not a native).

So in my opinion, trying to hit a moving target (Mac) while wanting to
run on all kinds of platforms (including Windows) is much too ambitious.
Doing one job well seems much more in reach.

However, those that are doing the work get to call the shots, and
everyone else, including me, is a whiner (to paraphrase Torvalds just a little).

So thanks all you gnustep developers for what you've done, and if
you ever do build something that can be installed on bare hardware (using
a linux kernel, a bsd kernel, or something else) i'm all ears.  Especially if
it knows what a gpt disk is so that it can be installed alongside my
gnu/linux systems.

But even if you never do, i still admire you!!! :)  [And i still like


On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Austin Clow <address@hidden> wrote:
> Second this.
> On 17,Feb 2016, at 1:12 PM, Gregory Casamento <address@hidden>
> wrote:
> Speaking of a vision.  What I personally would like to see is a complete OS
> distro built from the bottom up with GNUstep in mind.  I believe I made a
> mistake when I held back on the desktop idea way back.  The reason I did
> this was to allow other desktops to prosper.
> I would like us to consider creating something new and great and not
> tethered to technologies which hold us back.
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