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Re: libobjc2 build issue

From: Johannes Brakensiek
Subject: Re: libobjc2 build issue
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:13:42 +0100

On 27 Nov 2019, at 12:29, David Chisnall wrote:

I am no longer actively working on Foundation or AppKit, so I shouldn't get much of a say in what those projects do, but if GNUstep is going to be tested with only GCC then my advice would be:

- Actively market GNUstep as only an OpenStep implementation, drop all Cocoa references.

- Drop support for Clang.

Currently, the project is setting itself up to fail by advertising features that no one tests.

Ok, this is the third thread on this topic but I can only support it from a user’s and newbie’s perspective. It was quite disappointing when I discovered that this Cocoa compatibility thing is very limited taking into account the current feature set of Cocoa.

Thinking about it a while and seeing Sergii’s Nextspace project one could consider you can build a fully functional desktop experience using the OpenStep API.

So it might be a less overambitious goal to polish the existing API, keeping GCC compatibility and thus preventing a fork of the community. (The clang people might distribute their ARC enabled apps as they are trying currently and thus testing and improving clang runtime quality. I’d like to do that.)

Even using a GCC compatible API/libs there are many things that could be improved to target a wider user audience:

  1. Polish the look and feel of AppKit and make it integrate well with current GTK themes (same for Gorm).
  2. Work on the integration of ObjC with f.e. gnome-builder.
  3. Upgrade xib integration to work with interfaces created with recent Xcode releases.
  4. Provide a plugin for Xcode that warns the user when he uses classes or API calls that are not part of the OpenStep API or implemented GNUstep API so that cross platform developing and porting apps becomes more easy.

Some unfinished thoughts…

The clang/ng runtime environment distribution keeps important to me, though.


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