Re: Call to stop contributing

[Umberto Cerrato]

Hello everyone,

“Hurting the project” ahah. Are you serious?

Anyway,
I do want to spend some time to comment this. 

I think the person who came up with this issue did a good thing. It is very 
important to not focus just “on code”. We are not automata and it is instead 
very important to discuss each other (discuss-gnustep seems the right place to 
do it). People who get to code together have to stay in a nice and comfortable 
place. Again, it is important to give the right importance to things. Coding is 
nice, but nobody should let her/himself distracted by the “real”(?) issues. (As 
this one could be, but everything I am going to say should be good for other 
times too.)

The core team could meet and discuss about the issue if they want/the majority 
wants to deepen the thing. (As you are already doing). But I would say email is 
not a great tool to come to a compromise (or a decision).

Also from my understanding Johannes did not invite the group to “stop coding” 
but instead to dissociate yourself by an organisation that in his opinion made 
a bad decision.

I am done.
I thought I had to comment on this for the way the majority of the people here 
replied to the first email. I do not really care about the FSF or GNU.

> Il giorno 27 mar 2021, alle ore 23:24, Gregory Casamento 
> <greg.casamento@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> 
> Johannes,
> 
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 2:58 AM Johannes Brakensiek 
> <johannes@brakensiek.info> wrote:
> Gregory,
> 
> On 26 Mar 2021, at 22:36, Gregory Casamento wrote:
> 
> > I utterly fail to see the parallel between me asking for a CoC to be 
> > considered and you posting an open letter calling for the removal of 
> > RMS from all leadership positions and for us to stop contributing to 
> > this project.  Equating the two discussions is absolutely ludicrous.
> 
> I was linking to that letter, but I was not calling for the removal of 
> RMS. I was calling RMS and the FSF to set up a CoC that makes it clear 
> in a way which can not be misunderstood that they do in no way tolerate 
> or even accept abusive behaviour against children and women.
> 
> And what will hurting this project accomplish?  Nothing.  You are only 
> hurting the people who love and contribute to this project on a regular 
> basis.  Hurting this project doesn't further your goal.  
>  
> If they do not one will have to conclude they implicitly tolerate and 
> accept such behaviour and such opinions. So this is entirely about a 
> CoC.
> 
> Thank you for your support, Niels.
> 
> Niel's email above is, honestly, the first I have heard of that.  It saddens 
> me that anyone would choose to punish this project because of their own 
> political stance.  I sincerely hope that he reconsiders.
>  
> I’m again calling anyone who has got a mother or a sister, a wife or a 
> daughter to stop contributing to this project until RMS and the FSF have 
> set up a corresponding CoC or otherwise remove him- or herself from the 
> project and to then set free the valuable source code and software of 
> this project.
> 
> No.  No one is going to stop contributing to this project because you ask 
> them to, sorry.  I was trying to ignore this thread after the last post 
> hoping that things would cool off, but I was wrong to do so.  I have loved 
> this project for 20+ years and I am not going to abandon it or my friends 
> because YOU want to grandstand and play politics on this forum.
>  
> 
> Johannes
> 
> I am giving you fair warning... end this silly thread.  I, for one, am going 
> to get back to work on GUI and Gorm.  I refuse to allow a stupid political 
> discussion slow me down.
> 
> GC
> -- 
> Gregory Casamento
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