Re: Website organization Re: Notes from GNUstep quarterly meet up...

[Riccardo Mottola]

Hi Nikolaus,

nice to read you! Hope this means you are fine and also still a "stepper".

Last time your contributions were important in the organization of the 
Website! I followed many of them.


H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Interesting point. Yes, it may have been right 20 years ago when there 
> was a community working closely together and a home page was the main 
> tool to bring together users, testers and developers. IMHO this has 
> changed and a home page is nowadays mainly a marketing tool to attract 
> users from competing projects.
> And users do no longer feel comfortable to be welcome as testers, rather they 
> expect perfection. Therefore giving Bugs a prominent position may indeed be the 
> wrong message.

Yes... I understand and unluckily this is the fate of Open Source projects.
Given the worsened bug-tracking experience anyway (the other discussion 
is still open, I came to a possible conclusion though) maybe "Report a 
Bug" should be put in the developer menu, with the following reason.
1) average Joe doesn't care anymore, so using a top-level item is bad, 
even gives the wrong message
2) average Joe ("Otto Normalverbraucher") is curious enough to report 
something he will have clicked on the menu "develop" (after all, a bug 
report is the first step to development, which is not just "coding") 
and/or he will find out the issue tracker on github anyway.


> > Another hint could be renaming "Get Help" to "Contacts and Lists", but I am 
> > unsure, Get Help is very direct, but unexpected.
> The difference is if menu items are formulated "descriptive" or as "call for 
> action". I.e. as noun or verb phrase.
>
> And indeed the first 4 are descriptive so the 5th should be the same. But it 
> may be difficult to stay with one style.
>
> Anyways, an issue with verb phrases is they can be formulated as instructions 
> to the machine or as what the user wants to achieve.
>
> "Get Help" seems to be a short for "Get me help" or "Give me help". So "Give Help" or 
> "Help" would be the instruction to the web page.

I think you proposed it back then... or it is even a left-over of the 
previous site.
It is a "call for action" but I feel it is out of place compared to the 
other times as they are organized now.

What would you propose as a name for that link? just "Help"? "Contacts?" 
"Lists & more?" ?

Riccardo