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Re: Running app with ARC turned off


From: Daniel Santos
Subject: Re: Running app with ARC turned off
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 13:55:53 +0000

I have some test classes that run the code (the main code is a library) and if 
I don’t create an AutoReleasePool object I get warnings like :

autorelease called without pool for object of class … (for example 
GSMutableDictionary)

Does that mean that it is my responsibility to release the object right ? But 
most of the objects in the warnings belong to GNUstep base (which I am using)

Daniel Santos



> On 10 Dec 2024, at 13:09, Andreas Fink <afink@list.fink.org> wrote:
> 
> but that depends on how you compile your code as you can have bits of code 
> compiled with ARC together with pieces of code which are not using ARC.
> As far as I remember, the code of gnustep itself doesn't use ARC (otherwise 
> it would not be backwards compatible with systems not supporting ARC yet) and 
> you can mix and match code freely as its just the compiler inserting the 
> necessary code on the fly
> 
> 
>> On 10 Dec 2024, at 14:01, Daniel Santos <daniel.dlds@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree, but my objective is to have ARC disabled to try to reproduce the 
>> memory allocations that happen in NeXT (that does not have ARC).
>> Meaning that with ARC disabled I will have to explicitly release objects and 
>> therefore catching memory allocation bugs that will happen on the NeXTStep 
>> version  of the code.
>> 
>> Daniel Santos
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 Dec 2024, at 11:29, Andreas Fink <afink@list.fink.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> valgrind should have no issue with ARC at all. In fact it results in 
>>> objects being released instantly instead of sometimes later so memory 
>>> issues might show up quicker.
>>> But as valgrind traces malloc/free calls (or some variants of them) which 
>>> ARC ultimately use at some point, using ARC or not should not have any 
>>> effect.
>>> 
>>>> On 10 Dec 2024, at 12:07, Daniel Santos <daniel.dlds@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I am developing an application that runs both in NeXTStep and on Linux 
>>>> with GNUStep.
>>>> As far as I know GNUStep uses Auto release pools to manage memory and 
>>>> Automatic Reference Counting.
>>>> 
>>>> I want to run the app under valgrind on Linux with ARC turned off because 
>>>> debugging memory leaks with NeXTStep tool (malloc debug I think that’s 
>>>> what is called) is much harder and the tool is not as good as valgrind.
>>>> 
>>>> Is it possible to turn off ARC in GNUstep ?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Regards
>>>> Daniel Santos
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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