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Re: [Auth]Re: What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specifica
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Hans Zandbelt |
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Re: [Auth]Re: What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specification draft) |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:00:39 +0100 |
At 16:58 1/9/2002 -0700, Mike Warren wrote:
>I fail to see the point of IDsec if it's just a glorified form-filling
>solution with the possibility of storing the data elsewhere; what
>about the *real* problem of *trustworthy* identity information.
IDsec is all about getting the right user data from your own storage
to the Internet service provider. Indeed you could use some of
this data for web-form-filling, but you can also use specific
data to solve the problem of trustworthy identity information as
I illustrate below.
>If you tell me you're ``Rhys Weatherley'', that is probably perfectly
>fine for an email conversation about a project (and I don't need IDsec
>to tell me this) but what about when you're selling me a car and tell
>me via the Internet that you're ``Rhys Weatherley''. In that case, I
>want proof. I want some mutually trustworthy third party to say,
>``yes, Mike, he's really called Rhys Weatherley''.
The solution that IDsec can offer:
your profile data may contain a certificate that is signed by
the mutually trusted third party .
As you mention yourself, it is required that some mutually trustworthy
third party exists in this scenario; otherwise
such a scenario is not possible, with or without IDsec.
Hans.
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- [Auth]What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specification draft), John, 2002/01/05
- [Auth]Re: What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specification draft), Hans Zandbelt, 2002/01/05
- Re: [Auth]Re: What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specification draft), David Sugar, 2002/01/05
- Re: [Auth]Re: What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specification draft), John, 2002/01/05
- Re: [Auth]Re: What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specification draft), Rhys Weatherley, 2002/01/05
- Re: [Auth]Re: What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specification draft), Mike Warren, 2002/01/09
- Re: [Auth]Re: What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specification draft), Rhys Weatherley, 2002/01/09
- Re: [Auth]Re: What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specification draft),
Hans Zandbelt <=
- [Auth]A real life case in Identity, Albert Scherbinsky, 2002/01/10
- Re: [Auth]A real life case in Identity, Albert Scherbinsky, 2002/01/11
- Re: [Auth]Re: What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specification draft), Mike Warren, 2002/01/11
- Re: [Auth]Re: What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specification draft), David Sugar, 2002/01/06
- Re: [Auth]Re: What I percieve is wrong with IDsec (was IDsec specification draft), Hans Zandbelt, 2002/01/07
- [Auth]A comment on terminology, Albert Scherbinsky, 2002/01/08
- Re: [Auth]A comment on terminology, Hans Zandbelt, 2002/01/08
- Re: [Auth]A comment on terminology, Norbert Bollow, 2002/01/08
- Re: [Auth]A comment on terminology, Albert Scherbinsky, 2002/01/08
- Re: [Auth]A comment on terminology, Hans Zandbelt, 2002/01/08