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Re: [DotGNU]SourceForge drifting

From: David Sugar
Subject: Re: [DotGNU]SourceForge drifting
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:42:19 -0500 (EST)

I have embedded Python into Bayonne for some limited uses, and it should
not be too difficult to embed it into SEE.

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Gopal.V wrote:

> Hi,
> > I have looked at phpgroupware, and think it has a very excellant set of
> > ideas in it.  Where/how it fits/relates to DotGNU as currently engaged, I
> > am not precisely certain, but I would be happy to talk about this further.
> > I understand that php may again become free software, and if so, this is a
> > good thing.
> >
> > David
>       If ZEND becomes GPL'd , we have a highly optimized php engine. In the 
> end
> I think it will ( look at qt :).
>       PHP is a core language for dynamic data generation for the web. If
> PhpGroupWare has a SOAP/XMLRPC interface, it could well be the first
> real webservice we could plug dotGNU into. Moreover since it supports
> PHP3, we can use it on our servers. Unlike the jabber servers, we have
> no licensing problems. The XMLRPC interface ( I am told it works), could
> be used to run dynamic apps. I think there are a few news ticker programs
> that use PHP to get data dynamically. But unlike these static format data
> acquisition, XML data is much more flexible. This may also be standardized
> eg a function to get the list of all webservices.
>       After all this talking I am beginning to think implmentation side of
> the webservices.
>       This combination of PHP for server-side, python for the UI , and XMLRPC
> for communication would result in something far greater than Xforms.
> Imagine a standard set of GTK-widgets+GladeXML for all machines. Just download
> the .glade file ( automatically ), run using the python GladeXML ( we would
> need to do something to connect events , but since python __dict can be
> updated at runtime , we could use a remote function lookup and connect wrapped
> functions ) then communicate data from/to the PHP groupware for processing
> (may be implement a database query). Voila A live web app. This is not as
> easy as it sounds, 'cause security is a *BIG* issue for webapps. Like
> a webform, we may also be able to add a scripted data verifcation.
>       I would like if somebody else would comment on any possible glitches in
> this idea.
>       Once I started thinking this, I came to a better idea, why use PHP for
> server ? . We could as well use GEAS ( Daniel are you listening ? ) for
> this purpose . But I will leave the decision to dotGNU.
>       I think all this departs from the SEE model, but as Norbert has said 
> maybe
> python will recieve support on SEE in the near future.
> Gopal.V

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