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Re: bootstrapping and CLUErs (was Re: [DotGNU]WikiTexi)

From: David Sugar
Subject: Re: bootstrapping and CLUErs (was Re: [DotGNU]WikiTexi)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 04:33:35 -0500
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When one talks about IDE's in general, what I have always wanted was something that integrated well with existing tools and practices. Just about every IDE I have ever seen insists on it's own specially formatted "project file". What I would like is something that supports autoconf/automake based build trees as we normally do them rather than a foriegn project build format. The closest I could imagine is something like "maketool" combined with a simple project file that really only needs to know what source files make up the project and what pseudo-folder they are organized in at the developers convenience so one can get a project tree view to select files to editor, and that supports project options as "configure" options.

Of course a C# or Java IDE's have also had different needs to meet in this regard.

S11001001 wrote:

Jonathan P Springer wrote:

After the mails that have flown around regarding documentation, I've posted the result of some research and thinking I did at


I have read this. :)

I should point out three important stipulations that should apply to the whole DGDE project (not an IDE):

1. People should be able to participate even without X, preferably using existing tools. It has been mentioned already that there are many who prefer to continue developing in a command-line environment. This is not to say that any of the DE components should have CLUE counterparts; just something to be aware of in system design.

2. It should bootstrap with minimal support (not kdelib or gnomelib, GTK and Qt are ok)

3. Depends only on free software.

Otherwise, you have clearly gone more into this than I ever would have ;) Thanks for taking the project!

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