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Re: [DotGNU]More compelling reasons against Mono...

From: Paolo Molaro
Subject: Re: [DotGNU]More compelling reasons against Mono...
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:53:55 +0100
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On 03/15/02 Gopal.V wrote:
> > And someone already pointed out that his arguments, if you assume they
> > are correct, apply equally well to both mono and dotgnu.
>       No, Does mono provide a webservice framework ? -- No you just
> tell people to "Use Passport if you need Webservices , Thank you".

Does GCC provide a webservice framework ? -- No. How is that different
from another development tool like mono?

Let me quote our FAQ for you:

Question 31: Is the Mono Project is related to the Microsoft Hailstorm
effort? Is Ximian endorsing Hailstorm?

No. The Mono Project is focused on providing a compatible set of tools
for the Microsoft .NET development platform. It does not address,
require, or otherwise endorse the MS Passport-based Hailstorm single
sign-on system that is part of Windows XP and other services.

Question 32: Will Mono or .NET applications depend on Microsoft

No. MS Passport is unrelated to running .NET compatible applications
produced with the Mono tools. The only thing you will need is a
just-in-time compiler (JIT). 

Question 35: Is Mono a free implementation of Passport?

No. Mono is just a runtime, a compiler and a set of class libraries.

Question 36: Will the System.Web.Security.PassportIdentity class mean
that my software will depend on Passport? 

No. Applications may use that API to contact a Passport site, but are not
required to do so.  As long as your application does not use Passport,
you will not need Passport.

Question 37: Will Mono running on Linux make Passport available for

No. However, the Passport toolkit for Linux-based web servers is
available from Microsoft. 

You can also read, where we
explain some of the problems of passport and provide some insights of
what an alternative system could look like.

I'll quote just this chunk:
Passport and endangering Open Source.

A few people have said: `Mono will allow Passport to be available for
Linux and that is bad'. This is plain misinformation.

Currently, you can obtain Passport for Linux from Microsoft itself and
deploy it today on your Web server. Mono does not even enter the picture
here. Go to and download the toolkit and you will see with
your own eyes that passport is already available for Linux.

You're free to spread lies and misinformation, hope you don't mind if
I continue pointing out that you're (at the very least) confused.

> Portable.NET has proved that you don't need to use any MS tools ,
> and we were self hosting in GNU from DAY 1.

You mean when pnet was reverse-engineered from the ms programs?


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