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Re: Virtual Machine in the abstract (was Re: [DotGNU]What languages shou

From: Fergus Henderson
Subject: Re: Virtual Machine in the abstract (was Re: [DotGNU]What languages should DotGNU support?)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:19:15 +1100
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On 30-Nov-2002, Stephen Compall <address@hidden> wrote:
> > IMHO we should stop thinking in VM boxes and start allowing all
> > possibilities.  That includes LISP, Python, C++, etc. And we should
> > be able to use the natively without compiling to VM first.
> Of course you mean to interpret them in their respective interpreters.
> > The big advantage of DotGNU should be that we are flexible in all
> > directions, including the languages used. We should not disallow C++
> > simply because it's hard to safely compile it. If safety is
> > absolutely needed a user can use paranoid VM's, but most users will
> > not, and we should not force them into using it.
> Users don't know how much security they really need.  e.g. passwords,
> VBS.  Or how about plain-text "private" emails?  And C++ support is
> certainly OK, as shown by the budding pnetC, as well as the Internet
> Virtual Machine talk a while back.

AFAIK pnetC and other C/C++ compilers for .NET (lcc, MSVC) all generate
unverifiable IL code, in general.  So they don't provide any security

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