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Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer
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Larry Denenberg |
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Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer |
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Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:07:16 -0400 |
>What I want to know is, if it wasn't ב followed or preceded by a caret,
>how come Emacs decided to render this paragraph right-to-left?
I'm saying that it *was* ב preceded by a caret.
>> But there's no point in trying. The buffer can't possibly contain an
>> actual ^ב. No buffer can. Buffers and strings can contain only those
>> characters encodable in 22 bits. If your input facilities permit, you
>> can prove this by typing ^Q ^ב; Emacs refuses to insert such a character
>> (Wrong type argument: char-or-string-p, 67110353).
>
>[Character] ^ב is just another Emacs display feature, like ^C. Emacs
>has special code in its display engine to produce such two-character
>combinations to display an otherwise unprintable character as a string
>that any terminal will show without any problem. But Emacs still knows
>that these two characters stand for a single character, and "C-u C-x ="
>will tell you which one.
Sorry for being unclear. Let me rephrase more precisely.
The character ^ב exists. It is a ב with the 27-th bit set, which is to
say, 1489 + 2^26 = 67110353. This character can't appear in any Emacs
string or buffer (cf. error message above).
You are correct that sometimes Emacs carefully displays an unprintable
character with a multi-char combination, when there's really only a
single character in the buffer. That's not happening here. Here, Emacs
has a character that can't be inserted into a buffer. So it carefully
inserts a multi-char combination instead. But in this case, it's *not*
a single character, and C-u C-x = will tell us nothing. Said another
way: It's the inserter, not the displayer, that's being careful.
I apologized in a previous note for taking us all down this "display of
control-bet" red herring. Let me repeat the apology: I incorrectly
reported bad behavior, and indeed there is no issue. It doesn't matter
what the directionality of ^ב is, because the bidi routines, which are
responsible for displaying buffer contents, will never see such a
character. And since the buffer actually contains first caret then ב,
we automatically get the correct behavior in both RTL and LTR modes.
The only conceivable question is whether the ^ב that I see is wrong
because it should be C-ב. I promise to forget this if you will.
/Larry Denenberg
address@hidden
http://larry.denenberg.com/
- [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Larry Denenberg, 2010/06/26
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/26
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/26
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Larry Denenberg, 2010/06/26
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/26
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Larry Denenberg, 2010/06/27
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Amit Aronovitch, 2010/06/28
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Larry Denenberg, 2010/06/28
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Larry Denenberg, 2010/06/28
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/28
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer,
Larry Denenberg <=
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/28
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/28
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Amit Aronovitch, 2010/06/26
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Amit Aronovitch, 2010/06/26
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/27
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Amit Aronovitch, 2010/06/27
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/28
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Martin J. Dürst, 2010/06/29
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/29
- Re: [emacs-bidi] Suboptimal display-reordering in minibuffer, Amit Aronovitch, 2010/06/29