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[debbugs-tracker] bug#12948: closed (24.1; wrong angle brackets)

From: GNU bug Tracking System
Subject: [debbugs-tracker] bug#12948: closed (24.1; wrong angle brackets)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:20:02 +0000

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has caused the debbugs.gnu.org bug report #12948,
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--- Begin Message --- Subject: 24.1; wrong angle brackets Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:57:51 +0100
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With the TeX input method, \langle and \rangle yield the deprecated
characters U+2329 and U+232A rather than the ones at U+27E8 and U+27E9
which are for mathematical use and Western languages. The former
characters should not be used; they are troublesome because of their
canonical equivalence to CJK punctuation, and are frequently rendered
(correctly) as having the full width of a CJK character.

These definitions are in leim/quail/latin-ltx.el. The same file also
produces the deprecated angle brackets from \leftparengtr and
\rightparengtr, but this makes even less sense, since those names should
properly be used for U+2993 and U+2994, unless I'm completely mistaken.

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--- Begin Message --- Subject: Re: bug#12948: 24.1; wrong angle brackets Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:19:28 -0500 User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux)
>> Sounds OK.  BTW why not 3008 and 3009 instead?
> U+3008 and U+3009 are the CJK brackets that U+2329 and U+232A are
> canonically equivalent to.

OK, done.

> If I were emperor of Emacs, I would delete them from latin-ltx.el and ask
> anyone who complains to give references, but if you prefer to keep them but
> changed to U+2994 and U+29A0 (which are the only characters that make sense
> after all), then please do so. The current definitions are clearly wrong.

Not being an emperor, I deleted them but I won't ask people to complain.

Thank you,


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