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Re: Status of my GTK efforts.
Kevin A. Burton
Re: Status of my GTK efforts.
27 Dec 2001 11:26:35 -0800
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Richard Stallman <address@hidden> writes:
> You say "GTK is the recommend GUI toolkit for GNU programs". Is this
> recommended or forced?
> It is very strongly recommended--there would need to be a very strong
> reason to justify using any other toolkit as the basis for a new GNU
> package today.
> What if QT eventually becomes clearly superior to GTK?
> It is exceedingly unlikely that Qt will become so thoroughly superior that we
> would want to drop GTK in favor of Qt.
funny. I find it exceedingly likely :).. Actually I just find it likely. The
truth is I don't care. I just think we need standardization on this element.
> In fact, the limitation of Qt to C++
> is a grave technical drawback,
Unless you are using C++.
> which could hardly be overcome by any other practical advantages.
> The overall purpose of the GNU Project is social and political: to spread
> freedom and community for software users. Technical aspects are secondary to
> that. Therefore, from time to time we make a technical decision based on
> social and political consequences which outweigh the technical consequences.
> Don't be surprised when you see this.
I am not surprised by this. I agree that technical decisions are secondary,
especially when restrictive licenses are involved.
> The idea that engineers should consider only technical reasons in their
> decisions is not just mistaken--it is the exact opposite of what a socially
> responsible engineer does. I am shocked to see an engineer advocating the
> rejection of social responsibility.
I hope you are not asserting that *I* am rejecting social responsibility?
> It is like Werner von Braun in the song: "I send rockets up, but where they
> come down is not my department, says Werner von Braun." Please be aware that
> in the GNU Project we decided long ago not to look at things that way.
I also don't know what is rejecting social responsibility. Is advocating the
use of foo (which is GPL) instead of bar (which is also GPL) "rejecting social
I didn't reply to the rest... I don't have the time to respond :(
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Re: Status of my GTK efforts., Richard Stallman, 2001/12/25
- Re: Status of my GTK efforts., (continued)
Re: Status of my GTK efforts., Richard Stallman, 2001/12/26
Re: Status of my GTK efforts., Jan D., 2001/12/30
- Re: Status of my GTK efforts., Jan D., 2001/12/25
- Re: Status of my GTK efforts., Richard Stallman, 2001/12/26
- Re: Status of my GTK efforts., Andrew Choi, 2001/12/26
- Re: Status of my GTK efforts., Jason Rumney, 2001/12/27
- Re: Status of my GTK efforts., Jan D., 2001/12/30
- Re: Status of my GTK efforts., Richard Stallman, 2001/12/31