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Re: C-l while in menu?
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Pavel Janík |
Subject: |
Re: C-l while in menu? |
Date: |
Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:55:26 +0200 |
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From: Richard Stallman <address@hidden>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 01:46:57 -0600 (MDT)
> > It might not be easy to find key bindings for it, though.
>
> I think it is very easy. We should use F10, and invent new variable
> f10-should-use-tmm (this is only idea to exactly describe its
meaning...)
> defaulting to nil.
>
> What key bindings does XEmacs use for this feature?
> Maybe we should use the same ones, if there is no disadvantage.
To say the truth, I could not find the key that pop-up the menu in
XEmacs :-( I can not download newer version of XEmacs, because I'm at home
these days (illness, slow and rather expensive Internet connection). I've
tested xemacs-21.5.5.tar.gz but I did not find it :-( Can anyone help me
with this?
> Another menu feature that users have asked for is a way to display
> proper-looking menus on ttys. The idea is that they would look as
> much like X toolkit menus as is possible on a tty. These menus could
> be implemented in xdisp.c by overwriting the menu contents into the
> desired glyphs array for the frame. (There is just one glyphs array
> for an entire frame, on a tty.)
>
> These menus could be controlled by the same tty commands that you
> are implementing in menus under X.
>
> This way we could replace tmm completely.
Yes, this is already in TODO. I will see what I can do with it.
From: Miles Bader <address@hidden>
Date: 22 Apr 2002 10:27:43 +0900
> address@hidden (Pavel Janík) writes:
> > The first part of this is done (keyboard can control menu, no shortcuts
> > yet). I will commit it in a moment. Changes are:
>
> I just tried it, it seems very cool.
>
> Now if only F10 would pop up a real menu on X instead of the tmm loser
> menus...
;-) I have already wrote that to xlwmenu.c as FIXME:
/* FIXME: Should F10 enter to menu? Which one? File? */
From: Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:09:08 +0300 (IDT)
> On 22 Apr 2002, Miles Bader wrote:
>
> > Now if only F10 would pop up a real menu on X instead of the tmm loser
> > menus...
>
> Yes. In fact, I find support for keyboard keys in the menus rather
> pointless without being able to pop up the menu via the keyboard. Why
> would someone click the mouse to drop down a menu, then move the arm to
> the keyboard to continue?
This is the first step.
BTW - I have some questions/issues about the current code (they are also in
xlwmenu.c file). What do you think about them?
1. This is mainly about Options menu. Do you agree with it?
/* FIXME: Space should toggle toggleable menu item but not remove the menu
so you can toggle the next one without entering the menu again. */
2. Some GUI programs use ESC to get rid of the whole menu, some use it to
get rid of the last pane of sub menus. What should we do. I have chosen
the first one, because Left can be used to get the second one. OK?
/* FIXME: Should ESC close one level of menu structure or the complete menu? */
3. I see that many of developers think that `yes' is the correct answer to
this question ;-)
/* FIXME: Should F10 enter to menu? Which one? File? */
4. This issue is pure FIXME, I hope that Jan will do that.
/* FIXME: Grab keyboard when in menu. */
--
Pavel Janík
Don't compare floating point numbers just for equality.
-- The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)
- Re: C-l while in menu?, (continued)
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Kai Großjohann, 2002/04/25
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Robert J. Chassell, 2002/04/25
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/04/25
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Jason Rumney, 2002/04/25
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Robert J. Chassell, 2002/04/25
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Robert J. Chassell, 2002/04/25
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Miles Bader, 2002/04/25
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Richard Stallman, 2002/04/26
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Richard Stallman, 2002/04/25
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Richard Stallman, 2002/04/22
- Re: C-l while in menu?,
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- Re: C-l while in menu?, Stefan Monnier, 2002/04/22
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Miles Bader, 2002/04/22
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Kim F. Storm, 2002/04/22
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Miles Bader, 2002/04/22
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Jan D., 2002/04/22
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Richard Stallman, 2002/04/23
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/04/22
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Richard Stallman, 2002/04/23
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Pavel Janík, 2002/04/23
- Re: C-l while in menu?, Richard Stallman, 2002/04/25