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Re: Customize Rogue

From: Per Abrahamsen
Subject: Re: Customize Rogue
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:23:19 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8)

Juanma Barranquero <address@hidden> writes:

> In that light, getting a message that says "Value changed
> outside of customize buffer" 

You only get that message if you actually use the Customize form based
interface.  If you use the Customize form based interface, the message
is useful.  If you don't use it, the message is not useful, but you
will not see it either.

> all to do with the fact that I want the "right" to make customize
> believe that I did M-x customize, even if I didn't.

You have that "right" (since you already have code in your .emacs that
do exactly that), but Emacs should have not contain extra code to
support functions that are never useful to any people, but does things
only people who do not know what they are doing believe is a good

Remember that you have only been able to name a *single* variable
where setting custom-saved manually from .emacs is useful in any
sense, and that variable has been *deliberately* made hard to set from

Emacs should provide functions because they are useful, and not for
any other reasons, including philosophical reasons.

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