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Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8
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Jan D. |
Subject: |
Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8 |
Date: |
Fri, 2 May 2003 14:44:46 +0200 (CEST) |
> >> A user may type C-x C-f FILENAME in the dired buffer. With
> >> the above method, we don't know how to encode FILENAME.
>
> > Why would this change? I am only talking about file names that dired
> > reads from a directory. No need to change C-x C-f.
>
> Typing `f' works fine but C-x C-f doesn't, which is not a
> good behaviour.
I think I understand now. You mean if dired uses UTF8, and file system
coding is Latin-1, C-x C-f would then use Latin-1, and possibly fail?
I agree that this is bad, but I am not sure anything can be done
about it. Both KDE and GNOME file managers and file dialogs fail to open
the right file in certain cases. I think it is worse if dired fails on
'f' since in that case the file name is supplied by dired, not the user.
For C-x C-f there is always TAB to see what Emacs thinks the file is called.
>
> >> And, even if one types `f' to visit a file, in that file
> >> buffer, we loose the information of the original
> >> representation.
>
> > Then Emacs as a whole should change.
>
> Yes, my proposal is to change Emacs' behavior as to filename
> handing as a whole in a fairly low cost.
>
I am not sure your case covers all cases. If a file name was
latin-1 and then converted to UTF8 (outside Emacs), Emacs would think it is
still latin-1, no?
It involves a bit of user interaction, making it intrusive.
> By the way, I've just thought of this weird situation. One
> has a file of utf-8 name in a directly of latin-1 name. :-(
> I think we can say sorry in such a case.
But then you would be using non-printable latin-1 characters. I don't
think this is something one has to handle.
Jan D.
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Kenichi Handa, 2003/05/01
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Kai Großjohann, 2003/05/02
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Jan D., 2003/05/02
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Kenichi Handa, 2003/05/02
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Jan D., 2003/05/02
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Kenichi Handa, 2003/05/02
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8,
Jan D. <=
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Richard Stallman, 2003/05/03
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Jan D., 2003/05/03
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Richard Stallman, 2003/05/05
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Jan D., 2003/05/07
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Stefan Monnier, 2003/05/07
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Richard Stallman, 2003/05/09
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/05/03
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Jan D., 2003/05/03
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Kenichi Handa, 2003/05/05
- Re: Strange behaviour with dired and UTF8, Jan D., 2003/05/06