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Re: Possible change to startup.el

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:58:02 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux)

"Eli Zaretskii" <address@hidden> writes:

>> Cc: address@hidden, address@hidden
>> From: Juri Linkov <address@hidden>
>> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:32:19 +0300
>> I was mislead by the "Emacs Tutorial (choose language)..." menu item.
>> I thought that "Emacs Tutorial" always selects the English tutorial while
>> "Emacs Tutorial (choose language)..." selects a tutorial in any language.
>> The fact that English menu item "Emacs Tutorial" can select a non-English
>> tutorial is misleading too.  Ideally the menu item "Emacs Tutorial"
>> should be translated into the same language whose tutorial it selects.
>> This requires support for multi-language menus.
> Until multi-language menus are supported, perhaps we should change the
> menu item to say
>      Emacs Tutorial (in YOUR-LANGUAGE)
> where YOUR-LANGUAGE stands for the language name.  This should be done
> only for those languages that indeed have a translated tutorial.  The
> tooltip should also hint about that.

I think we should do that only for those languages that can't be shown
in the menu.  Since this depends on a complex interaction of platform,
fonts and locales, I think the programmer wanting to put something
into a menu can't be reasonably expected to make a guess.

So I think that we should add something like
(defun menu-string-supported-p STRING &optional DISPLAY)
that will tell a programmer whether a given platform is supposed to
be able to display a given string.

It is really something that Emacs needs to tell the programmer.

David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

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