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Re: Diropen toolbar icon


From: Jan D.
Subject: Re: Diropen toolbar icon
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:30:18 +0100
User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206)

Juri Linkov wrote:

Sorry, but I think this Up icon looks out of place when compared to
Next and Previous icons.  Next and Previous icons have arrows on the
paper sheet in Portrait mode, but Up icon is rotated to Landscape mode.
Could you leave the paper in Portrait mode, and to rotate only the arrow?
I've fixed that now.

Thanks.  Now Up is consistent with Next and Previous.  I only wonder
why the paper sheet on Next and Previous icons you got from the Gnome
repository has a different look than the paper sheet in search.xpm which
is copied from the same project?

There is a difference core Gnome icons and Gthumbs. Apparently they where not synched. As I understand it, gthumb does not use these icons anymore.

Also I don't understand why arrows on Next and Previous are so
unconventional.   Usually when the arrow leads from outside to inside,
this means that you have arrived to inside this node from either next
or previous node, i.e. it denotes inward movement as in:

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/04/0428.html

A more correct ideogram would be the arrow pointing outside to mean that
you are leaving the current node to the next/previous node, i.e. the
arrow denoting outward movement as in:

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/04/0444.html

I don't know if we should fix these icons in Emacs, or to ask
Gnome developers.

I think we have to do it ourselves, if we want to do so.

I also suggest to place previous/next history icons before next/prev/up-node.
The reason is that in most browsers previous/next history icons are closest
to the left edge of the toolbar, and the Home icon (to which next/prev
are related to) are located on the right.
That is an easy change.  Is this what others think also?

There are currently also another inconsistency.  In the header line
navigational keywords are in the following order:

 Next: ...   Prev: ...   Up: ...

But on the toolbar the order of icons is different:

 prev-node   next-node   up-node

Actually here I think info mode should be changed (if we shall change anything). It is more common for the order to be (prev, next) than (next, prev) in mail readers, browsers, pdf viewers and such. I don't know who okays such a change, I guess the standalone info viewer should change also if Emacs changes.

   Jan D.





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