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Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7

From: Lennart Borgman (gmail)
Subject: Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 00:02:39 +0100
User-agent: Thunderbird (Windows/20061207)

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
IMO this change in the manual of the text I wrote is ridiculous:

--- msdog.texi  27 Dec 2006 12:49:00 -0000      1.64
+++ msdog.texi  2 Jan 2007 21:00:44 -0000       1.65
@@ -334,11 +334,14 @@
 keyboard input in Emacs.
@cindex MS-Windows keyboard shortcuts
-  Many key combinations (known as ``keyboard shortcuts'') that are in
-widespread use in MS-Windows programs are taken by various Emacs
-features.  Examples include @kbd{C-C}, @kbd{C-X}, @kbd{C-Z},
address@hidden, and @kbd{W-SPC}.  You can get some of them back by turning
-on CUA Mode (@pxref{CUA Bindings}).
+  Many key combinations (known as ``keyboard shortcuts'') that have
+conventional uses in MS-Windows programs conflict with traditional
+Emacs commands.  This conflict arose because the designers of Windows
+did not concern themselves with how Emacs used these characters.
+Examples include @kbd{C-c}, @kbd{C-x}, @kbd{C-z}, @kbd{C-a}, and
address@hidden@key{SPC}}.  You can redefine some of them with meanings more
+like the MS-Windows meanings by enabling CUA Mode (@pxref{CUA

The original text was completely neutral, whereas the new one is so
grotesque that it's at best suitable for anti.texi, and at worst is an
insult to the reader's intelligence.

To add insult to injury, the ChangeLog entry accuses me of being
lopsided towards Windows:

        * msdog.texi (Windows Keyboard): Explain that Windows was incompatible
        with Emacs, not vice versa.

Such incidents make me wonder why I still spend almost all my free
time working on Emacs, if what I get in return is this kind of

It is a joke of course, but one of those jokes that may be dividing, not uniting. A good example IMHO of why it is better to joke about oneself than about others.

I could write in length about this, but just want to make a short note. The kind of thinking that is behind this joke tends to surface when a group is in a stressed position. (I believe it is rather similar to the stress that came up when I pointed to what I think are some problems on the w32 side.)

There is a press now to fix the errors and get a release done. I think everyone agrees on that though we may disagree about details regarding what bugs to fix and so on. Could we please just accept that there is some stress now and that some bad things happens then?

I would be glad if those changes to msdogs.texi were changed back to something more neutral. Let us avoid to write down our group thinking in the manual.

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