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address@hidden: file-remote-p malfunctions at site-start (file-name-hand

From: Richard Stallman
Subject: address@hidden: file-remote-p malfunctions at site-start (file-name-handler-alist init)]
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:52:48 -0400

Would someone please DTRT and ack?

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From: David Reitter <address@hidden>
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:53:59 +0000
Subject: file-remote-p malfunctions at site-start (file-name-handler-alist

If a site-start.el file is created with the following contents:

(print file-name-handler-alist)
(print (file-remote-p "/ssh:address@hidden:/home/dreitter/test2"))

the output of the last expression is nil for me.
It should (correctly) be non-nil.

The reason for that is that `file-name-handler-alist' does not  
contain handlers for tramp file names when the site-start file is  
loaded - at a later point, the appropriate handlers are added.

The practical relevance is that when users (or site or distribution  
admins) load and turn on recentf-mode from a site-start file together  
with a `file-remote-p' predicate in `recentf-keep', then all recent- 
file entries containing a tramp path will be purged. That's very  

The problem would go away if `file-name-handler-alist' was correctly  
initialized before site-start files are executed. Additionally,  
please consider defining the handler function for tramp files  
somewhere outside of tramp so that `file-remote-p' doesn't cause  
tramp to load just because it is checked for some file.

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In GNU Emacs (powerpc-apple-darwin7.9.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0)
of 2007-03-22 on rodrigues.inf.ed.ac.uk
Windowing system distributor `Apple Inc.', version 10.4.9
configured using `configure  '--without-x' '--prefix=/usr/local''

Important settings:
   value of $LC_ALL: nil
   value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
   value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
   value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
   value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
   value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
   value of $LC_TIME: nil
   value of $LANG: nil
   locale-coding-system: iso-8859-1
   default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
   encoded-kbd-mode: t
   tooltip-mode: t
   tool-bar-mode: t
   mouse-wheel-mode: t
   menu-bar-mode: t
   file-name-shadow-mode: t
   global-font-lock-mode: t
   font-lock-mode: t
   blink-cursor-mode: t
   unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
   utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
   auto-compression-mode: t
   line-number-mode: t

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<down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<menu-bar> <help-menu> <report-emacs-bug>

Recent messages:

\.tbz\\'\\|\\.tgz\\'\\|\\.g?z\\(~\\|\\.~[0-9]+~\\)?\\'\\|\\.dz\\'" .  
jka-compr-handler) ("\\`/:" . file-name-non-special))


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