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Re: EN refcard (and others) nonsense sentence ?

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: EN refcard (and others) nonsense sentence ?
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 16:49:45 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.91 (gnu/linux)

Jan Djärv <address@hidden> writes:

> David Kastrup skrev:
>> David Kastrup <address@hidden> writes:
>>> address@hidden (Michaël Cadilhac) writes:
>>>> Speaking of which, any idea what does this sentence mean :
>>>>> Type \kbd{F10} to activate the menu bar using the minibuffer.
>>> You have to try it out to believe it.
>> Oops.  It would appear that this is no longer what it used to be on
>> windowing systems.
>> The description appears now to apply to M-` only, at least on GTK+ and
>> likely also other window-systems.
> It works for me with trunk and 22_BASE, Gtk+, Lesstif/Motif and Lucid widgets.
>  Isn't F10 bound to x-menu-bar-open for you?  Or perhaps your window manager
> is stealing all F10?

    <f10> runs the command x-menu-bar-open
      which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in 
    It is bound to <f10>.
    (x-menu-bar-open &optional FRAME)

    Open the menu bar if `menu-bar-mode' is on. otherwise call `tmm-menubar'.

Do you have menu-bar-mode off?

David Kastrup

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