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Re: New start up splash screen annoyance...
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Didier Verna |
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Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... |
Date: |
Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:46:34 +0200 |
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Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> This is a one-off suggestion to emacs-devel, and y'all can do what you
> want to with it. Reply-To set to xemacs-beta where I plan to follow up.
>
> Stefan Monnier writes:
>
> > > Two frames always imply a fight: the window manager will try to find
> > > places for them and decide on how to focus them. Getting a separate
> > > window tamed is the matter of C-x 0 or C-x 1. In contrast, C-x 5 0 or
> > > C-x 5 1 will leave one with a window configuration that might be worse
> > > than if just one frame would have been placed.
>
> The important implication of this is that window manager or init file
> settings might leave the splash screen obscured. That's not what
> Richard wants. David's particular configuration is not a big deal
> (except to him), given the goal of this decision, but the complexity
> of getting the splash screen on top is.
AFAICR, we talked about this several years ago, and I think my opinion
was already that a so-called splash screen should be an
override-redirect window (not managed by the window manager), centered
on the screen[1], that stays for a while (see below), or until there's a
mouse click on it.
But note that it's different from a user calling display-splash-frame
which should probably stay as it is. I really don't think most users
make an actual use of the splash screen at startup (but prove me wrong).
However, when someone calls d-s-f, it's probably to do something with it
(click the about buttons and stuff). So the splash screen need not be
interactive IMO.
Footnotes:
[1] that would also have the advantage of giving time to setup all the
faces and stuff *before* the first frame is actually displayed, and only
then, popup something ready to use.
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- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., (continued)
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Richard Stallman, 2007/09/23
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., David Kastrup, 2007/09/23
- RE: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Drew Adams, 2007/09/23
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Sascha Wilde, 2007/09/24
- RE: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Drew Adams, 2007/09/23
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Richard Stallman, 2007/09/24
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Didier Verna, 2007/09/26
- mode line [X], Richard Stallman, 2007/09/26
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance...,
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- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Juri Linkov, 2007/09/22
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Eli Zaretskii, 2007/09/23
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., David Kastrup, 2007/09/23
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Juri Linkov, 2007/09/23
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Kim F. Storm, 2007/09/23
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., David Kastrup, 2007/09/24
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Richard Stallman, 2007/09/24
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Richard Stallman, 2007/09/23
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Eli Zaretskii, 2007/09/23
- Re: New start up splash screen annoyance..., Eli Zaretskii, 2007/09/22