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Re: remember(-diary).el
From: |
Leo |
Subject: |
Re: remember(-diary).el |
Date: |
Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:41:05 +0000 |
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Gnus/5.130000 Emacs/23.0.50 (20071101) Fedora 8 (gnu/linux) |
On 2007-11-22 08:57 +0000, martin rudalics wrote:
>>>As I understand it (it's been a fairly long time since I've used the
>>>more primitive versions of windows), the "short name" chosen for a long
>>>name is explicitly chosen to ensure it doesn't clash with any other
>
>>>short names. E.g., for the file "remember-diary.el", it might choose
>>>"rememb~1.el" as a short name.
>>
>> In theory, yes, but in practice, the algorithm that chooses the short
>> 8+3 alias has bugs that could well cause a clash, depending on what
>> other files are present in the directory whose names map to the same
>> strings after 8+3 truncation, and in what order Windows sees the files
>> created.
>
> FWIW Eli's right:
>
> (1) If remember.el is created _before_ remember-diary.el, the 8+3 alias
> of the former is written to disk as REMEMBER.EL that of the latter as
> REMEMB~1.EL (I did use the disk editor to verify that).
>
> (2) If remember-diary.el is created first, its 8+3 alias is written to
> disk as REMEMBER.EL. When I now try to find a file remember.el in the
> same directory, Windows finds remember-diary.el instead. When I try to
> store a file remember.el in that directory, Windows complains that such
> a file already exists.
>
> In general the problem occurs when the name of the second file I want to
> write has eight characters _and_ is a prefix of the name of the first
> file. Hence, I get the same bug for remember_diary.el vs remember.el as
> well as for rememberdiary.el vs remember.el.
>
> With other words: When the name of a file A sans extension is a prefix
> of the name of a file B sans extension and the length of the name of
> file A sans extension equals 8, file A must be created before file B in
> order for having both files coexist in the same directory. I didn't
> bother to check this rule for filenames containing a tilde.
>
> My problem with the CVS repository thus could be resolved by renaming
> remember.el to something like remember-core.el.
remember-diary probably should be included with planner (an external
package) instead of in Emacs. AFAIK, it has not been used in any
packages except planner.
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- Re: remember(-diary).el, (continued)
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Miles Bader, 2007/11/21
- Re: remember(-diary).el, martin rudalics, 2007/11/21
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Eli Zaretskii, 2007/11/21
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Miles Bader, 2007/11/21
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Eli Zaretskii, 2007/11/21
- Re: remember(-diary).el, martin rudalics, 2007/11/22
- Re: remember(-diary).el, joakim, 2007/11/22
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Richard Stallman, 2007/11/22
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2007/11/23
- Re: remember(-diary).el, David Kastrup, 2007/11/23
- Re: remember(-diary).el,
Leo <=
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Juri Linkov, 2007/11/22
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Leo, 2007/11/22
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Michael Olson, 2007/11/30
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Leo, 2007/11/30
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Michael Olson, 2007/11/30
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Richard Stallman, 2007/11/21
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Michael Olson, 2007/11/30
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Richard Stallman, 2007/11/30
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Michael Olson, 2007/11/30
- Re: remember(-diary).el, Glenn Morris, 2007/11/30