Re: FW: Minibuf menu when minibuffer is standalone

[Lennart Borgman (gmail)]

Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > > From: Drew Adams Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 1:02 PM  
> > > Consider as a possible enhancement somehow making the Minibuf 
> > > menu-bar menu available also when the minibuffer is in a
> > > standalone frame (frame parameter minibuffer has value `only').
> > >
> > > Because the minibuffer maps are local maps, when you have a
> > > standalone minibuffer frame, which has no menu-bar, the Minibuf
> > > menu-bar menu is not available anywhere. (The other frames do
> > > not have minibuffers, and their buffers do not have the
> > > minibuffer map as local map.)
> > >
> > > Perhaps menu Minibuf could somehow be made to appear in all 
> > > frames that have a menu-bar, whenever the minibuffer is active.
> > > I'm not sure how that might be implemented, because it is good
> > > to keep the current situation of the minibuffer maps being
> > > local to the minibuffer. But if a good implementation could be
> > > found, it would be desirable to have the Minibuf menu available
> > > also for users who have a standalone minibuffer.
>
> Actually, I'd hate such a behavior.  It's only relatively recently
> (maybe a couple years) that I discovered the minibuffer menus, where
> I tested Emacs in a non-separate-minibuffer-frame setting and found the
> menu-bar switching just inconvenient.
>
> I mean, really, all that menu-bar-switching for what?
> 3 miserable commands?


For learning perhaps? Maybe not very useful for you though ... ;-)

However looking at the Minibuff menu when doing C-x C-f in CVS Emacs 23 
I see a little bit strangeness:

  Minibuff
   Complete -- TAB
   Complete Word
   List Completions -- ?
   Previous History Item -- M-p
   Next History Item -- M-n
   Isearch History Backward -- C-r
   Isearch History Forward -- C-s
   Enter -- C-j
   Quit -- M-ESC ESC

I would perhaps expect some to be different

   Previous History Item -- up
   Next History Item -- down
   Quit -- C-g

It seems like the choice of keybinding to show could be done better.

   Enter -- C-j

I do not understand that one at all.