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Re: Differences between mail-mode and message-mode
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Differences between mail-mode and message-mode |
Date: |
Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:51:44 +0300 |
> From: Reiner Steib <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden, address@hidden
> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:41:32 +0200
>
> > . mail-mode runs `text-mode-hook' and `mail-mode-hook'; message-mode
> > says it runs `message-mode-hook' "in addition to any hooks its
> > parent mode `text-mode' might have run" -- it isn't clear to me if
> > these two are compatible wrt what text-mode does.
>
> This text is from `derived-mode-make-docstring'. message-mode is
> derived from text-mode.
So is mail-mode, but the blurb is somehow still different, I don't
know why.
> > . mail-mode uses `mail-yank-hooks'; message-mode doesn't appear to
> > have such a facility.
>
> ,----
> | ;; FIXME make it really obsolete.
> | (defvar mail-yank-hooks nil
> | "Obsolete hook for modifying a citation just inserted in the mail buffer.
> | Each hook function can find the citation between (point) and (mark t).
> | And each hook function should leave point and mark around the citation
> | text as modified.
> |
> | This is a normal hook, misnamed for historical reasons.
> | It is semi-obsolete and mail agents should no longer use it.")
> `----
>
> Should we care about it if is obsolete?
It depends whether people are using it or not, IMO. And we usually
declare a feature obsolete formally, and keep it that way for some
time, before removing it.
> > . message-mode's default value of `message-citation-line-format'
> > seems to produce different results compared to what `r' in Rmail
> > produces.
>
> AFAICS, `r' doesn't cite at all and produce not citation line (neither
> does `C-c C-y' (`mail-yank-original').
I mean the "John Doe writes" stuff vs the "From: ..." etc. produced by
Rmail's `r'.
- Re: message-mode is now default?, (continued)
- Re: message-mode is now default?, Stefan Monnier, 2009/07/17
- Re: message-mode is now default?, Richard Stallman, 2009/07/17
- Re: message-mode is now default?, Miles Bader, 2009/07/17
- Re: message-mode is now default?, Bastien, 2009/07/18
- Re: message-mode is now default?, Byung-Hee HWANG, 2009/07/18
- Re: message-mode is now default?, Eli Zaretskii, 2009/07/18
- Differences between mail-mode and message-mode (was: message-mode is now default?), Reiner Steib, 2009/07/19
- Re: Differences between mail-mode and message-mode, Sven Joachim, 2009/07/19
- Re: Differences between mail-mode and message-mode,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- Re: Differences between mail-mode and message-mode, Eli Zaretskii, 2009/07/19
- Differences between mail-mode and message-mode (was: message-mode is now default?), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2009/07/22
- Re: Differences between mail-mode and message-mode, Reiner Steib, 2009/07/22
- Re: Differences between mail-mode and message-mode, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2009/07/22
- Re: Differences between mail-mode and message-mode, Miles Bader, 2009/07/23
- Re: message-mode is now default?, Stefan Monnier, 2009/07/18
- Re: message-mode is now default?, Eli Zaretskii, 2009/07/18
- Re: message-mode is now default?, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2009/07/18
- Re: message-mode is now default?, David Kastrup, 2009/07/18
- Re: message-mode is now default?, Lennart Borgman, 2009/07/18