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Re: Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen.


From: Sebastian Rose
Subject: Re: Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:52:35 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux)

David Kastrup <address@hidden> writes:

> Sebastian Rose <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> David Kastrup <address@hidden> writes:
>>> "Stephen J. Turnbull" <address@hidden> writes:
>>>
>>>> David Kastrup writes:
>>>>  > "Stephen J. Turnbull" <address@hidden> writes:
>>>>
>>>>  > > I meant pre-existing corruption [...]
>>>>  > 
>>>>  > That interpretation is not the business of the editor.
>>>>
>>>> Precisely my point.  The editor has *no* way to interpret at the point
>>>> of encountering the invalid sequence, and therefore it should *stop*
>>>> and ask the user what to do.  That doesn't mean it should throw away
>>>> the data, but it sure does mean that it should not continue as though
>>>> there is valid data in the buffer.
>>>>
>>>> Emacs is welcome to do that, but I am sure you will get bug reports
>>>> about it.
>>>
>>> Why would we get a bug report about Emacs saving a file changed only in
>>> the locations that the user actually edited?
>>>
>>> People might complain when Emacs does not recognize some encoding
>>> properly, but they certainly will not demand that Emacs should stop
>>> working altogether.
>>
>>
>> People do indeed complain on the emacs-orgmode mailing list and I can
>> reproduce their problems.
>
> What meaning of "indeed" are you using here?  This is a complaint about
> Emacs _not_ faithfully replicating a byte pattern that it expects to be
> in a particular encoding.
>
>>   http://www.mail-archive.com/address@hidden/msg19778.html
>>
>> I guess this is related?
>
> It is related, but it bolsters rather than defeats my argument.
>
> People don't _like_ Emacs to cop out altogether.


Sorry David. This was not meant as an argument. It was more a question
because I was a bit unsure if this was related (I did not follow thread
that closely).

And in that case, the OP reported, that Emacs indeed refused to work, in
that it didn't want to save the file (which I cannot fully reproduce).

I didn't mean to highjack this thread though.


Thanks for your answer anyway


  Sebastiab




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