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Re: Integrating package.el

From: joakim
Subject: Re: Integrating package.el
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:36:08 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux)

Ted Zlatanov <address@hidden> writes:

> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:40:11 -0800 Phil Hagelberg <address@hidden> wrote: 
> PH> Phil Hagelberg <address@hidden> writes:
>>>> Basically, all I want is for it to be able to distinguish between
>>>> "packages available locally, either installed by the user or the
>>>> sysadmin", and "packages that will be autoloaded in a given session", so
>>>> as to be able to install different versions of the same package at the
>>>> same time.
>>> OK, I will prioritize this once I finish adding support for multiple
>>> archive sources. I think we'll need this in order to support separating
>>> out fully-supported packages vs unsupported packages for which we simply
>>> have copyright assignment as Ted has suggested.
> PH> I've just implemented support for multiple package sources in
> PH> package.el. Right now it is preconfigured to use ELPA, but the following
> PH> snippet will let it pull in packages from my own archive source as well:
> PH> (add-to-list 'package-archives
> PH>              '("technomancy" . "http://repo.technomancy.us/emacs/";) t)
> PH> Hit M-x package-list-packages to see all available packages. The "bork"
> PH> and "bingle" packages are dummies that are only available from my
> PH> repository, and should be available for installation at the same time as
> PH> the standard ELPA-provided packages.
> PH> I'd love to see some other elisp library authors try to set up their own
> PH> package archive sources using package-maint.el and test the
> PH> multiple-archive support.
> PH> I hope that a new version of package.el incorporating my changes could
> PH> be pushed out to ELPA and then possibly included in Emacs once a little
> PH> more work has gone into integration with the Emacs load process.
> Hi Phil,
> that's wonderful news.  I was just reading (and commented) at
> http://monkey.org/~marius/self-contained-emacs.html about how package.el
> with custom repositories could solve a very common need to have a
> "personalized" self-contained Emacs.

Thats a brilliant idea!

> Have you considered support for non-HTTP sources?  I'm OK with HTTP only
> for now but I think a Bazaar source would make sense if there's going to
> be a ELPA-style repository inside Emacs itself.  Also are file:/// URLs
> supported?
> What remains to be done to make package.el a part of Emacs?  I think
> Dan Nicolaescu's suggestion about menus makes sense.  Is there anything
> else?
> Once it's in the core we can start work on making more Emacs packages
> installable directly.  Again, I think this is great progress and I
> appreciate your work.
> Thanks
> Ted
Joakim Verona

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