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Re: delete-selection-mode


From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:31:35 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (gnu/linux)

"Drew Adams" <address@hidden> writes:

>> You can't set the mark without activating it.
>
> C-u C-SPC
>
> Or just turn off t-m-mode.
>
>> > or deactivate it. If you never want an active region, then
>> > turn off t-m-mode.
>> 
>> I already said that I'd consider transient-mark-mode _off_ 
>> again a good solution and have an active region for shift-selection, 
>> mouse-selected, and explicit temporary transient-mark-mode.
>> In which case I don't mind delete-selection-mode much since it
>> is in effect only for explicitly selected _regions_ instead of
>> being a side-effect of using the _mark_.
>
> You don't mind d-s-mode if it is no longer d-s-mode. Nice.
>
>> I have heard no arguments against that.
>
> Sure you have, and from more than one person.
>
> 1. Other things being equal, inconsistency between mouse and keyboard
> wrt the region is bad (yes, it's already bad that we have some such
> inconsistency, IMO).

There is no inconsistency.  Commands that set a _region_ set an active
region.  Commands that are supposed to set the mark without activating
it, set the mark without activating it.  All newcomer mouse and key
sequences belong to "set the region" and activate it.

> 2. t-m-mode as the default has already been decided.

Before we had shift-selection mode, and mouse-selections autoactivated
the region.

-- 
David Kastrup





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