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Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p
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David Kastrup |
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Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p |
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Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:01:24 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> writes:
>> Since we opened that can of worms already by making C-f/C-b do logical
>> motion as opposed to the arrow keys doing visual motion, I should think
>> it would make sense to disconnect C-n/C-p from the vertical arrow keys
>> as well and move them in a non-display-related manner in the "keep the
>> same C-f distance from the last LF" sense.
>
> I have no objection to this suggestion, although I'm not sure when I
> personally would use such kind of a down/up-arrow command.
Well, in keyboard macros doing work on columnar data you don't want to
have them move into wrapped lines.
>> likely the same with "C-a" "C-e" for logical movement as contrasted
>> to <home> and <end> for visual movement.
>
> To this, I object. I made the left/right arrows and their
> Ctrl-modified siblings move to the left resp. right, regardless of the
> logical buffer order, because this is what users of bidirectional
> scripts expect -- they are used to it in every other bidi-aware
> application out there. By contrast, <home> and <end> always move to
> the beginning resp. end of the current line,
The left border of the screen is not necessarily the next character
after the line feed.
> they have no relation to either left or right directions.
On my keyboard, the <home> character is inscribed with "Pos1". That is
arguably associated with the leftmost column.
--
David Kastrup
- Performance, Stefan Monnier, 2010/06/06
- Re: Performance, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/07
- arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p (was: Performance), David Kastrup, 2010/06/07
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p (was: Performance), Uday S Reddy, 2010/06/07
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Chong Yidong, 2010/06/11
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Stefan Monnier, 2010/06/11
- RE: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Drew Adams, 2010/06/11
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Uday S Reddy, 2010/06/11
- RE: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Drew Adams, 2010/06/11
- RE: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Uday S Reddy, 2010/06/11
- RE: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Drew Adams, 2010/06/11
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/12