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Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p
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James Cloos |
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Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p |
Date: |
Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:17:36 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
>>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> writes:
>> In gedit C-f and C-b move forward and backward logically, whereas LEFT
>> and RIGHT move left and right visually.
EZ> Please be more specific, after reading my message where I presented
EZ> the definitions relevant to this thread. Emacs currently implements
EZ> only the logical-mode motion, both with C-f/C-b and with arrow keys.
I used logically and visually correctly.
>> In seamonkey, in a web-page's text input box, both the arrow keys and
>> the C-b and C-f keys move visually.
EZ> A useless mode, if you ask me.
Agreed. I was just reporting what occurred when I tried it out, for
everything I could think of which I had installed on this box and which
had -- or should have -- some bidi-awareness.
>> In gvim, both the h and l keys and the arrow keys move visually.
EZ> Please don't consider Vim a bidi-aware application. All Vim does is
EZ> simple reversal of text on the screen. It has no idea what to reverse
EZ> and what not, and neither does it support UAX#9. It's small wonder it
EZ> can only support visual-order movement.
OK. I knew that it could compose correctly and at first blush seemed
aware. But again this was just reporting what occurrec when I tried
cursor movement w/in a r2l paragraph.
>> In Openoffice.org, the arrow keys move logically.
EZ> Again, please be more specific: what does the left arrow key do in a
EZ> R2L paragraph? Does it go backwards in the text, eventually ending up
EZ> at the first text character, or does it go forward?
Again, I used the terms correctly. If I wrote logically then the RIGHT
key moved forward in reading direction and the LEFT backward.
I will that OOo's cursor (a line at which the next char will insert)
changes when there is bidi text; a tail at its top points in the reading
direction of the surounding text.
Apologies if any of the above seems short....
-JimC
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James Cloos <address@hidden> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, (continued)
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, David Kastrup, 2010/06/13
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Chong Yidong, 2010/06/11
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Lennart Borgman, 2010/06/11
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, W Dan Meyer, 2010/06/11
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Miles Bader, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Lennart Borgman, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, James Cloos, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/12
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