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Re: Key bindings proposal
From: |
Lennart Borgman |
Subject: |
Re: Key bindings proposal |
Date: |
Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:59:12 +0200 |
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Chong Yidong <address@hidden> wrote:
> Lennart Borgman <address@hidden> writes:
>
>>>> - Alt-TAB is very important, at least on w32. It switches application
>>>> (or rather application level window).
>>>> - Alt+Letter (or Alt and then Letter) is used to open menus.
>>>
>>> Again, how is this different from other platforms?
>>
>> I think you know the other platforms better.
>>
>> What is unclear to you in this respect? I have not seen anything that
>> I would regard as seriously doubt here of what I wrote above.
>
> None of your points are Windows specific. On POSIX platforms, Alt-TAB
> is used commonly with to switch windows, and Alt-LETTER to open menus.
> But your proposed solution is myopically focused on Windows, and I have
> not seen a good explanation of why it should be so.
I am glad they are not Windows specific (but wonder why you say I am
myopically focused on Windows).
As Andreas already have pointed out POSIX does not define those
things. So what I am interested in is how the different window
managers handles this - and you answered that. Your answer is a
repeating what others have said here before: the Alt key is commonly
used by the window managers.
And I think it is unfortunate that Emacs by default takes it since a
keyboard user might be very used to use it the way they are used
above.
>> But one important thing to notice is that on w32 there is one window
>> manager (with just small variations relevant here). This means that
>> most people on w32 expects the common standards to work, especially
>> those above. (I.e. if they are keyboard users and I guess those
>> interested in Emacs are that.)
>
> Hijacking the Windows key is not exactly following the "common
> standards".
This is in open door. I have never said that. What I have said is that
it seems better to use the windows key since I believe it is fair to
assume it is not used that frequently by most users. (And I am quite
surprised that I have to tell this once again.)
- Re: Key bindings proposal, (continued)
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Chong Yidong, 2010/08/08
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Lennart Borgman, 2010/08/08
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Chong Yidong, 2010/08/08
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Lennart Borgman, 2010/08/09
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Uday S Reddy, 2010/08/09
- RE: Key bindings proposal, Drew Adams, 2010/08/09
- RE: Key bindings proposal, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2010/08/10
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Chong Yidong, 2010/08/12
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Andreas Schwab, 2010/08/12
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Jan Djärv, 2010/08/12
- Re: Key bindings proposal,
Lennart Borgman <=
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Juanma Barranquero, 2010/08/12
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Uday S Reddy, 2010/08/12
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Uday S Reddy, 2010/08/12
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Juanma Barranquero, 2010/08/12
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Lennart Borgman, 2010/08/12
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Juanma Barranquero, 2010/08/12
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Uday S Reddy, 2010/08/13
- RE: Key bindings proposal, Drew Adams, 2010/08/13
- Re: Key bindings proposal, Lennart Borgman, 2010/08/13
- RE: Key bindings proposal, Drew Adams, 2010/08/13