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Re: binding ibuffer to C-x C-b by default

From: Deniz Dogan
Subject: Re: binding ibuffer to C-x C-b by default
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:19:50 +0200

2010/10/8 Deniz Dogan <address@hidden>:
> 2010/10/8 David Kastrup <address@hidden>:
>> Deniz Dogan <address@hidden> writes:
>>> 2010/10/8 David Kastrup <address@hidden>:
>>>> Deniz Dogan <address@hidden> writes:
>>>>> 2010/10/7 Dan Nicolaescu <address@hidden>:
>>>>>> This was discussed briefly a few years ago and Stefan (and other
>>>>>> people) agreed with it: how about we map ibuffer to C-x C-b by default
>>>>>> in Emacs-24?
>>>>>> ibuffer is a superset of list-buffers, and it provides many things
>>>>>> that list-buffers does not.
>>>>> If a significant majority of experienced Emacs users prefer to use
>>>>> ibuffer instead of list-buffers (which is what I believe) what is the
>>>>> problem with making this change?
>>>> Thinking like a suitor rather than a programmer.
>>>> Making a choice between two different feature sets that both have
>>>> deficiencies is the wrong thing to do if we can instead create a version
>>>> that does not contain the particular weaknesses of either.
>>> Binding C-x C-b only changes a key binding.
>> And marriage only changes a soul binding.
>>> This has nothing to do with modifying list-buffers or ibuffer, neither
>>> does it affect anyone with the intentions of doing that.
>> You propose a divorce from C-x C-b with list-buffers, and a remarriage
>> with ibuffer.  Namely making a choice rather than an improvement to
>> either.
> Don't dramatize the change of a key binding by comparing it to divorce
> and marriage.
> Nothing stops anyone from changing (or possibly even merging) ibuffer
> or buffer-menu if we change C-x C-b to ibuffer.
> It appears that this topic has been discussed back and forth for at
> least seven years already

In fact, I just found this from 2001:


So it seems that the intention back then was to obsolete buff-menu in
favor of ibuffer (and in doing so change C-x C-b to ibuffer, of
course). I'm not sure that this ever happened.

Deniz Dogan

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