Re: bug#7260: 24.0.50; DEL screwed up

[Andreas Röhler]

Am 22.10.2010 17:17, schrieb Jason Rumney:
> Helmut Eller<address@hidden>  writes:
>
> > * Richard Stallman [2010-10-22 12:22] writes:
> >
> > >      >  I think most people now agree that `C-x C-x' shouldn't activate the
> > >      >  region when transient-mark-mode is switched on, but nobody
> > >      >  has actually altered that function to stop doing this.
> > >
> > > C-x C-x is the main way to activate an existing region in Transient
> > > Mark mode.  To make that require C-u will be a different pain in the
> > > neck.
> > >
> > > The change for C-d and DEL to delete all regions was too radically
> > > incompatible to make made without polling the users first.  The right
> > > thing to do is take that change out, then address the issue the right
> > > way: by polling the users.
> >
> > I haven't been asked, but I too think C-x C-x should not activate the
> > region.  That always annoyed me.
>
> I have always used C-x C-x for navigation purposes.  Now that
> transient-mark-mode is on by default,

which I think is the real issue at stake here. Fiddling 
exchange-point-and-mark afterwards, means dressing it from behind.

A different exchange-point-and-mark behaviour will break behavior at 
other places.

Please restore default of transient-mark-mode (ie. off)

The other major annoyance is the kind of former delsel-mode now default.
Just teribble, unusable for me and may others, as I read.

Andreas

 I find it an annoyance that the
> region is activated as a side-effect of swapping mark and point.
>
> Reactivating the region is not something I've ever found the need to do,
> but if I did, I would consider the swapping mark and point to be an
> annoying side effect, and would prefer a command that does not have that
> side effect.