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Re: Git mirrors
From: |
Vijay Lakshminarayanan |
Subject: |
Re: Git mirrors |
Date: |
Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:09:42 +0530 |
User-agent: |
Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (windows-nt) |
Óscar Fuentes <address@hidden> writes:
> Vijay Lakshminarayanan <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> "Stephen J. Turnbull" <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> > > But your analogy fails, because the problem here is not whether
>>> > > Óscar can *adapt* to Emacs' use of bzr. He can, and he can use git
>>> > > (for developing Emacs) at the same time as bzr (for pushing his
>>> > > contributions) if he wants to.
>>> >
>>> > Apparently, for Óscar is a problem.
>>>
>>> Why do you keep ignoring what he writes? Yes, he *wishes* Emacs used
>>> git, but in this thread, he wants to know why GNU uses a policy that
>>> appears to him to be counterproductive in a number of ways.
>>
>> I think Óscar's questions have been answered.
>
> No.
That surprises me. Quoting an exchange we had earlier:
,----
| > For the nth time: I want to know why such policy is considered good for
| > the Free Software cause (being GNU an instrument of such cause),
|
| The reason to support GNU projects over others is that it is the stated
| goal of GNU that all distributed software should be Free and copylefted
| by law. To this end, any software project that shares the same goals
| will be supported.
`---- http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-10/msg00527.html
[snip]
>> Hopefully Óscar understands the GNU project better with this thread.
>> That will be, IMO, the only good thing to come out of this huge
>> flamewar.
>
> Flamewar who?
You have people citing comments by each other and calling them ad
hominem. You have exchanges calling git/bzr
unusable/unintuitive/broken. There's more. All the characteristics of
a flamewar to me. Note: I didn't say /you/ alone were responsible for
the entire flamewar. (A one man flamewar has a better name: troll ;-) )
> I made a series of questions about how GNU policies affect
> non-GNU *FREE* software and how that fits the Free Software cause as a
> whole. Because GNU is just an instrument of the FSF to promote Free
> Software, and that may be at odds with such policies. Some people
> (including you) insist on talking about unrelated issues (Skype,
> my-dvcs-is-better-than-yours, etc.)
Richard's comments about the git vs bzr:
,----
| Git is simply a rival. We are not against it, but GNU Project
| activities ought to promote the GNU package for this job.
`---- http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-10/msg00616.html
,----
| > I always thought that Free Software is about the user, always the
| > user.
| >
| > The free software movement campaigns for users' freedom.
| > So you could say it is "about the users' freedom".
`---- http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-10/msg00659.html
Your follow up question to the above was:
,----
| How does it help the Free Software cause to privilege projects over
| other Free alternatives putting merit aside just because they have the
| GNU label sticked on them?
`----
I think I've answered this.
--
Cheers
~vijay
Gnus should be more complicated.
- Re: Git mirrors, (continued)
- Re: Git mirrors, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/10/14
- Re: Git mirrors, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2011/10/17
- Re: Git mirrors, Vijay Lakshminarayanan, 2011/10/17
- Re: Git mirrors, Óscar Fuentes, 2011/10/17
- Re: Git mirrors, Juanma Barranquero, 2011/10/17
- Re: Git mirrors, Stefan Monnier, 2011/10/17
- Re: Git mirrors, Richard Stallman, 2011/10/18
- Re: Git mirrors,
Vijay Lakshminarayanan <=
- Re: Git mirrors, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2011/10/17
- Re: Git mirrors, Jambunathan K, 2011/10/18
- Re: Git mirrors, Richard Stallman, 2011/10/18
- Re: Git mirrors, Richard Stallman, 2011/10/14
- Re: Git mirrors, Michael Raitza, 2011/10/17
- Re: Git mirrors, Miles Bader, 2011/10/13
- Re: Git mirrors, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/10/13
- Re: Git mirrors, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/10/11
- Re: Git mirrors, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2011/10/12
- Re: Git mirrors, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/10/12