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Re: GSoC 2013

From: joakim
Subject: Re: GSoC 2013
Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 09:58:50 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux)

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <address@hidden> writes:

> chad writes:
>  > GSoC is an effort to help get potential hackers hacking, not to
>  > outsource programming needs to cheap labor.
> It's both, and more.  In particular, it's *not* a mentor-student
> relationship, it's a project-student relationship, *represented* by
> the mentor.
>  > Anyone who actually wants to see Emacs get more involved in GSoC
>  > needs to start putting in organizational effort (creating process,
>  > identifying projects, recruiting students, recruiting mentors, etc)
>  > *before*, not *at* the deadline.
> Exactly my point.  Giving Emacs slots is just encouraging its bad
> behavior.  There are a lot of well-behaved projects out there, some
> with excellent students, who aren't going to get slots.  Emacs is most
> likely going to get slots it doesn't deserve.  That sucks.

Some of us are making a best effort. The effort doesnt show much on this
list because its not here its taking place.

IMO the project I intend to mentor is going well. Not because of me
because I my brain wasnt fitted with an administration module. Damirod
wrote the proposals etc, and he made a good job.

> By the way, I've done all that.  Project identification wasn't very
> good (but it was better than the whole GNU Project's ideas page, which
> is just plain sad for an organization that preens like the leader of
> the whole free software world, and of course Emacs doesn't even have
> one), and we deserved to have our org rejected this year.[1]
> So I know it's not that much effort that Emacs couldn't do it if it
> wanted to.  Emacs just doesn't want to.
> Footnotes: 
> [1]  Google also has some non-quality criteria that we didn't score
> high on -- we may very well not make it next year, either.

Joakim Verona

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