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Re: Blink cursor changes, possible W32 breakage.

From: Óscar Fuentes
Subject: Re: Blink cursor changes, possible W32 breakage.
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:02:20 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux)

Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> writes:

>> If you describe a method for checking the existence and firing frequency
>> of timers, we could check and report results.
> Does anyone really care?

That's the topic of this thread.

> Anyway, look at timer-list and timer-idle-list.  There are also async
> timers (see atimer.c), but I think those are only visible from C, so
> put a breakpoint in run_timers and see when it breaks.


On the GNU/Linux machine I'm writing this message, C-h v shows this:

timer-list is a variable defined in `C source code'.
Its value is shown below.

List of active absolute time timers in order of increasing time.

Value: ([nil 20969 10565 915710 nil password-cache-remove
      ("auth-source-magic (:max 1 :host (\"news.gmane.org\" \"news.gmane.org\") 
:port (\"119\" \"nntp\" \"nntp\" \"563\" \"nntps\" \"snews\"))")
      nil 306000]
 [nil 20969 10565 919267 nil password-cache-remove
      ("auth-source-magic (:port 110 :user <removed> :host <removed> :max 1)")
      nil 623000]
 [nil 20969 10566 330944 nil password-cache-remove
      ("auth-source-magic (:port 110 :user <removed> :host <removed> :max 1)")
      nil 87000]
 [nil 20969 12911 430882 nil password-cache-remove
      ("auth-source-magic (:max 1 :host (\"news.sunsite.dk\" 
\"news.sunsite.dk\") :port (\"119\" \"nntp\" \"nntp\" \"563\" \"nntps\" 
      nil 504000])

(I edited out some personal information.)

Those timers remain after quitting Gnus.

timer-idle-list contains

 ([t 0 0 125000 t show-paren-function nil idle 0]
 [nil 0 0 500000 t jit-lock-context-fontify nil idle 0])

On Windows machine, timer-list is empty (I don't run Gnus there.)
timer-idle-list is the same as in the GNU/Linux machine:

([t 0 0 125000 t show-paren-function nil idle 0]
 [nil 0 0 500000 t jit-lock-context-fontify nil idle 0])

Right now I have no time for running a gdb session for monitoring
run_timers. I'll do if there is interest on seeing the results.

This is some state information taken from M-x report-emacs-bug on the
GNU/Linux machine. As you can see, it is far from being emacs -Q :

Configured using:
 `configure --without-toolkit-scroll-bars --with-x-toolkit=lucid'

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  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

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