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Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible out
From: |
T.V. Raman |
Subject: |
Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible output? |
Date: |
Wed, 30 Oct 2013 02:17:14 -0700 |
Thanks for making the change Stefan!
Where advice has helped Emacspeak is in producing extremely
context-specific feedback --- which is why except in very focused
cases -- e.g., self-insert-command, hooks dont work as well
--- the nightmare scenario is writing a large bunch of
case
analysis statements within a hook function to produce cont-specific feedback.
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On 10/29/13, Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Could you please update keyboard.c to call message instead of
>> message_with_string when the user presses a key that is
>> undefined?
>
> I've changed the code to call `undefined' which then uses `message'.
>
>> I understand that opinions re advice is mixed with some
>> considering it a kluge, but kluge or not, it's stood Emacspeak
>> in good stead and helped create a solution that has made me and
>> others very productive over the last 18 years:-)
>
> Advice is great, indeed. But w generally try to take existing advices
> as indication that we should add hooks and/or refactor code so that
> those pieces of advice aren't needed any more.
>
> But don't worry: emacspeak is not the only package that's been relying
> on advice for many years. `unquify' is another one that even comes
> bundled with Emacs.
>
>
> Stefan
>
- Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible output?, (continued)
- Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible output?, T.V. Raman, 2013/10/27
- Re: Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible output?, Richard Stallman, 2013/10/27
- Re: Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible output?, Jarek Czekalski, 2013/10/28
- Re: Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible output?, Johan Bockgård, 2013/10/28
- Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible output?, T.V. Raman, 2013/10/28
- Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible output?, T.V. Raman, 2013/10/28
RE: Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible output?, Drew Adams, 2013/10/26
Re: Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible output?, Stefan Monnier, 2013/10/26