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Re: Apologia for bzr
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Eric S. Raymond |
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Re: Apologia for bzr |
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Sun, 5 Jan 2014 06:52:00 -0500 |
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Stephen J. Turnbull <address@hidden>:
> >> Mostly there *aren't* any "standard modern terms",
>
> You're getting too deep here. I'm pretty sure what's under discussion
> is cut vs. kill, paste v. yank.
Well, at that level, yes.
> That's not what Eric's talking about. The point he is making, it
> seems to me, is that Emacs is not an editor, it is a text editing
> environment or toolkit. Similarly, git is not a VCS, it is an
> environment for developing a VCS.
That's exactly correct. Of the level git folks call "plumbing", anyway
- it's almost pure mechanism, no policy. What they call "porcelain" is
a layer on top of that which provides policy and UI.
The analogy between the C core and Emacs Lisp is not perfect, but
neither is it strained or silly. Emacs jargon is complex in the
same way git jargon is because both bottom layers provide a richness
and degree of orthogonality that mone of the competition quite matches.
An important difference is that git porcelain is rather a shambles
compared to Emacs Lisp - usable, but ugly and sharp-edged. Eli's
complaints are not without justice.
Alas for git's competition, the power of the plumbing combined with
the social momentum of the project as a whole has more than
compensated for the porcelain's deficiencies.
--
<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
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